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Ford balks at demands to issue a recall on 1.3 million Explorers
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:34 pm
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Ford gets more pressure from safety group to recall 1.3 million Explorers
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The Center for Auto Safety is again calling on Ford Motor Co. to recall 1.3 million Ford Explorer crossovers over an increasing number of complaints that they leak carbon monoxide.
The group, which posted a letter addressed to Ford CEO Jim Hackett on Tuesday, claims roughly 1,400 driver complaints have been logged with NHTSA regarding exhaust leaks. NHTSA, the nation's top auto safety regulator, opened its investigation in July 2016, the center says.
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In response to the center's letter, Ford doubled-down Tuesday on its decision not to issue a recall.
"Explorers are safe," spokeswoman Elizabeth Weigandt said in a statement.
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Despite not issuing a recall, Ford has issued four technical service bulletins related to the exhaust odor issue to address complaints from police fleets and other owners.
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Regarding the public’s Explorer concerns, Jason Levine, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, said in a statement that Ford “needs to stop sending mixed messages to Explorer owners and passengers, including senior citizens and parents of young children, that the vehicles are 'safe,' and that repairs are available only for 'peace of mind.' Since some Ford dealers are responsibly replacing cracked exhaust manifolds, it is time for Ford to take a more serious step, recall all of these vehicles, and inspect and replace cracked exhaust manifolds."
If you have one of these, you need to have someone look at the exhaust manifold. Some dealerships and fleet managers are apparently replacing broken manifolds to address this problem.
It impacts Explorers built since 2011.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:42 pm to goofball
Breaking News: Fords are junk
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:45 pm to goofball
Wait. Didn't somebody just pay 50k for an explorer on here?
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:46 pm to CptBengal
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Wait. Didn't somebody just pay 50k for an explorer on here?
Maybe if it came with a free Ford Focus.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:47 pm to Houma Sapien
Breaking news:
Every car on the planet with over a hundred thousand miles has leaking manifold gaskets
Every car on the planet with over a hundred thousand miles has leaking manifold gaskets
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:51 pm to goofball
shite like this is why a dealership network is GOOD for the consumer. You can damn well bet plenty of them are pissed and are putting a ton of pressure on Ford to go ahead and issue the recall to stop any loss in consumer confidence.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:56 pm to Dr RC
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You can damn well bet plenty of them are pissed and are putting a ton of pressure on Ford to go ahead and issue the recall to stop any loss in consumer confidence.
Exhaust manifolds are expensive to repair, and it's possible that the defect is present in other Fords that share the power train.
The dealership would rather alleviate the concerns of their customers than let them buy a new Highlander, Traverse, Acadia, or Pilot.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:57 pm to CptBengal
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Wait. Didn't somebody just pay 50k for an explorer on here?
Yes he got a smoking deal on a 2017 with 2k miles on it for 50k!
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:58 pm to CptBengal
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No. Somebody did. Hold on
And he bragged about the "great deal" he got.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:58 pm to CptBengal
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Wait. Didn't somebody just pay 50k for an explorer on here?
No, the MSRP might be $50K, but the cost was more like $32K.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:07 pm to CptBengal
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Didn't somebody just pay 50k for an explorer on here?
I rented a brand new and loaded Explorer last year.
I don't even think I'd pay $40K for one of them. The non-rental company buyers that have Explorers are probably not paying anywhere near sticker.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:14 pm to goofball
A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The exhaust leaks causing the driver to pass out. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:16 pm to NATidefan
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The exhaust leaks causing the driver to pass out. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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