re: For our intrepid protesters - here's some more entities slowing down the return

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These people should be fighting for sick pay, healthcare and rent freezes.

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Have you thought that through carefully? Do you think the government can just print money indefinitely without dire consequences? Are you familiar with the term hyperinflation?Are you concerned about the deaths resulting from unemployment, poverty, lost hope, depression etc may actually exceed the deaths caused by this virus? Are you familiar with the unintended consequences? Do you realize how International economic pressures have historically led to world wars and/or other unintended calmities?

Wouldn't it make FAR MORE sense to quarantine the elderly and high risk Americans, take sensible precautions, and resume American life before the cure becomes far worse than the disease? Can't we as a mature society live with a certain reasonable amount of risk? Aren't these questions worth discussing RATIONALLY?

I think your giving him too much credit. Maybe the data does clearly show that, or maybe it doesn’t. I wouldn’t know before seeing said data that hasn’t yet been posted in this thread. As of now, that’s like your opinion, man.

So we should quarantine people who are elderly/ high risk? When does this slippery slope end?? How do i know if i am high risk if i can’t afford to go to the doctor? How do i quarantine myself at home if my job will be gone when im healthy again?

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So we should quarantine people who are elderly/ high risk? When does this slippery slope end??

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So, we should instead quarantine every one?

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How do i know if i am high risk if i can’t afford to go to the doctor?

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Take that up with the ACA.

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How do i quarantine myself at home if my job will be gone when im healthy again?

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You are all over the place.

The protestors are protesting so that people can get back to work.

What exactly are you bitching about? They aren’t protesting for enough of what YOU want?

let’s clarify something: we will never be able to answer any of the questions surrounding what you deem “uncertainty”. We will never have all the answers. We will never have 350 million tests. We will never have enough ventilators.

And we cannot sit around waiting for those or certainty.

this dude is just a troll. he doesn’t want rational two sided discussion.

As your Fox News reference (among others) demonstrates, we are living in highly divisive times. I believe we should approach this in a NON-IDEOLOGICAL manner and hope you are able to begin doing so soon.

Now I am going to tell you something that is likely to anger you. RISK IS PART OF THE HUMAN frickING CONDITION. Now read that two or three times until it sinks in. Plagues have been around for the entirety of human history. It is part of our experience. Knowing that, wouldn't it make more sense to apply a little non-hyperbolic cost/benefits analysis to this current Wuhan variety? Especially since, in the end, nobody gets out alive anyway? I mean, death is part of this ride around the sun. We know it's always just right around the corner and we decide to be audacious and brave anyway. We overcome our FEAR of risk.

Do we really want to live by anxiety and fear? Or do we want to have a more stoic approach based in reality. And while we look to science and medicine for rational guidance, do we really want to cede our liberty to scientists and physicians just because some of them have a really, really scary model? I say no.

We should quarantine those most at risk, be personally responsible, wear masks as needed, take reasonable precautions, continue to socially distance etc -AND get back to work as soon as possible. This does not have to be an "either/or" it can be a BOTH. We CAN do both. We don't have to live in the paralysis of a False Choice.

Let's live like Americans. Like our Fathers before us. Without Fear. With boldness and confidence.

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this dude is just a troll.

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Hopefully.

That last post was up there. fricking crazy person.

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based on half wit pseudo science thereby risking the lives of people

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You realize these models the "scientists and doctors", that were working for government, were completely wrong ? You don't seem to question the basis by which all of the ridiculous mitigation was based on. These wonderful "scientists and doctors" predicted a CAT 5 strike of the mainland US and Ordered mandatory evacuations of the entire US coastal areas, all b/c a tropical wave just formed off the coast of Africa. A CAT 1 later struck south of Brownsville and here we are.