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re: For divorced OTers: Do you ever wish you go back and change things?

Posted on 1/7/17 at 12:19 am to
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 12:19 am to
Spaceman, I read through most of these comments and my heart goes out to you fella.
Not sure what point on the relationship time line you are hoping to re-visit; but there is no point where you could have made any difference in how you and your exe's relationship panned out. Bottom line: sadly she's damaged goods, there is precious little you could have done to change that. Your knowing about the abuse likely wouldn't have changed a thing - it sounds like it was too severe and went untreated for too long. I commend you for trying. You sound like one of the good guys.
This situation is heartbreaking. I hope her abusers and any parents that allowed it to happen rot in hell. Protect your kids. Godspeed.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5361 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 12:36 am to
I'll say, I tried during my 1st marriage - I tried hard. I chalk it up to we both grew as people, as expected, and our 30 something selves weren't as fond of each other as our 20 something selves. I had an easy divorce and a very amicable relationship post divorce but it still suuucked going through it all. At the time I had a 5 y.o. girl and a 9 y.o. boy. They had a very difficult time with it. That is what causes me the most heartbreak and I used to think that I (we) should suck it up and get back together for them. In the end, we made the best decision. It helped that we were able to put emotions to the side and treat it with civility. I still love my ex as the mother of my 1st two and as a friend, but there's no way in hell I want to go back to how it was now.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Spaceman, I read through most of these comments and my heart goes out to you fella. Not sure what point on the relationship time line you are hoping to re-visit; but there is no point where you could have made any difference in how you and your exe's relationship panned out. Bottom line: sadly she's damaged goods, there is precious little you could have done to change that. Your knowing about the abuse likely wouldn't have changed a thing - it sounds like it was too severe and went untreated for too long. I commend you for trying. You sound like one of the good guys.


Thank you, sir. I think that knowing she is damaged goods and not just a sloot is part of the reason I'm having a not so easy time. I have come to realize that there isn't anything that I couldn't have done differently to have made things work. There really were some good times, or at least I thought there were. You know, as more things came to light so did the fact that it was exactly as you had said.

I am close friends with one of her former family friends (former, because the ex's entire family "disowned" the friend for speaking the truth) who recently told me that the ex was happy and all for about a year...then the demons started taking hold. When my daughter was born I noticed a subtle shift in the ex's behavior...and when my daughter reached the age my ex's abuse started its like the flood gates opened. Ugh.

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This situation is heartbreaking. I hope her abusers and any parents that allowed it to happen rot in hell. Protect your kids. Godspeed.


It most certainly is. There is a special place in hell for them. Her mom is the biggest piece of work I have ever seen. And crazy as a freaking loon.

I do all I can to protect my kids.

Question: How do you all keep from reminiscing? I know my situation is probably one of the most effed ones, but there are times when I do think back. And no, getting some strange hasn't helped really.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8783 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:06 pm to
I managed to survive my divorce better than most men because my ex is a moron and I had a great lawyer. That said, I spent close to $100k between attorney fees, private investigators, and other court related stuff. The only thing I regret is not realizing how much it was gonna cost. I could've had that miserable bitch whacked for considerably less money.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29378 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Thank you, sir. I think that knowing she is damaged goods and not just a sloot is part of the reason I'm having a not so easy time. I have come to realize that there isn't anything that I couldn't have done differently to have made things work.


Same boat I was in with my ex. Absolutely made the process of healing that much harder to get through.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5487 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Mrs. Wrong.


You know the Mrs. prefix would mean you were Mr. Wrong?
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Question: How do you all keep from reminiscing?


Being nine years into a divorce from a 27 year marriage, I think you will always reminisce. You will trouble shoot this thing every which way you can in your mind. Every potential solution will have a dead end. Once you run out of potential solutions you will finally accept that the outcome was going to occur regardless. You will shift over to remembering more of the good times and less of the bad times. However, that will take time and there is no way around that. You are mourning the death of a relationship and you are going to go through all the phases. You are going to finally appreciate the fact that what has happened has happened and things will never be the same again. When you acknowledge that you are going to redefine life, make good use of that time as you will be rediscovering yourself as a person, perhaps even discovering for the first time in your adult life outside of the relationship. It can ultimately be a good adventure, but there is going to be some pain first, and probably a hell of a lot. You and only you will be able to crawl through the emotional fog you are in right now. However, once you emerge on the other side, you are going to find that you are more sure of who you are and what you want. Then and only then will you be able to look for another mate.

Trust me, I have gone through a lot of strange myself, generally averaging a different female every two to three months and most of them quite attractive and ten to 15 years my junior. Not bad for someone in their 50's eh? However, while the strange is nice, it is never fulfilling, and for some it takes a while to get used to having sex with someone other than your wife, but it can be done.

The other thing is that when you are looking for another mate, don't look for a mate to "rescue." You cannot save them. They have to deal with their own issues on their own. You are not helping them or you by jumping into the quicksand with them.

It can be very difficult when you know that you did what you could to make things work and the ship still went down. None of us are perfect husbands or wives, although those imperfections are on a continuum. Part of the relationship being successful is the willingness and ability of BOTH parties to accept the other as they are, and that those faults are not of the deal breaker variety.

Like some of these others, I can definitely say that there will always be a special place in my heart for my ex and the mother of my children. After all, there were some good times, until the bad times overwhelmed the good times. However, there is a point that you have to walk away and reboot your life. I have more feelings for my ex-wife than she does for me, although there seems to be a very slow thaw occurring after nine years. In spite of my feelings, I also know that there is a difference between loving someone and being able to live with them. There is no way I could live with my ex-wife again. We would just both be setting ourselves for failure, and I have been down that road already and hope not to travel that specific path again.

Don't be afraid to talk it out with others. The more you tell your life story, the more of it gets out of your system.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and will be glad to respond to your comments. Good luck to you.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:59 pm to
I did feel into the big moments to see how I could have handled things in a more honest and helpful way. We both failed at communication 101.
I am sure I made the right decision but I could have made it much easier for her and for me by discussing the realistic options we might have gone down.
One of them would have made things so different I could have dealt with it all.
I doubt she would have though as her orientation was so skewed by her allegiance to her parents.

By talking it out more, she could have seen how it was really not possible anymore. As it really played out, she cried and didn't get how I could reject her.

Onward. Much wonder came to me in my travels since. I am happy she found what she was looking for too. It was not me. She would have had to change. She did not change at all.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
105824 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:06 pm to
You forgot something...






LC
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

I'll keep an eye on this thread and will be glad to respond to your comments. Good luck to you.


Thank you, sir, for taking the time to respond. This hasn't been fun or easy. And I have the feeling that the worst is yet to come.

quote:

It can be very difficult when you know that you did what you could to make things work and the ship still went down. None of us are perfect husbands or wives, although those imperfections are on a continuum. Part of the relationship being successful is the willingness and ability of BOTH parties to accept the other as they are, and that those faults are not of the deal breaker variety.


Very well said.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87309 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

have the feeling that the worst is yet to come.
it's hell financially and emotionally until the day you walk out of court with a signed decree.

After that it's all uphill so hang in there. Don't do anything stupid and don't fight over sofas or lamps.

Amazing, people I know have spent thousands in attorney fees fighting over something that cost $25.

Keep her as happy as you reasonably can because you will only hurt yourself if she gets pissed off.

I think my old lawyer now charges like $300/hr! It's crazy.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Amazing people I know have spent thousands in attorney fees fighting over something that cost $25


Thanks, CAD. My atty is a bit expensive, but he made sure the right thing happened.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87309 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

My atty is a bit expensive, but he made sure the right thing happened
mine was an ex marine.. Jay drescher here in Nashville and he was worth every penny.

Without him I can't imagine how fricked I would have been.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:27 pm to
Very well said. After being married over 20 yrs i had some bad times during my marriage, mainly my fault. I was looking at the wrong things. Someone told me to remember that the Woman I was married to was also once the Woman I feel in love with for some reasons and that I should try and remember them and try and find them again before its to late. Well I did and we fixing to make 34 yrs of marriage and were closer now than we ever have been. Ever. And I didn't lose my kids. Again I was the one doing wrong so I cant comment coming from the other way. I also had a very hard time with the thought of some other man seeing my Kids more than me and raising them.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

it's hell financially and emotionally until the day you walk out of court with a signed decree.


Took about seven years to get my credit back.

Also, keep a close eye on what the ex does in filing with the IRS. We were supposed to file jointly for the year prior to our breakup. I did and she didn't. She had gone to the IRS office and given them one hell of a sob story and they bought it. Next thing I know, I have a goddamned big assed tax bill on my hands that I had to hire another attorney and accounting firm to get me out of, which they did. When I confronted her about what she had done, she played naïve (bulllllshit!!) and said that she was only trying to get her portion of the refund to go to Europe for a couple of weeks. Never really got past that one. About a year and a half ago, I learn that a load was applied for in my name via on-line. When we traced the ISP address down, guess who???? After almost nine fricking years! I called her up and confronted her. When I heard her pause and stammer, I knew for sure it was her. I informed her that the application was cancelled and that she was getting a one time pass. The next time she pulled any shite like that I was going to do everything in my power to put her in jail for identity theft, and had my attorney send her a letter via certified mail to that effect. Girl hasn't spoken to me that much since, although when she does she is a little more humble and respectful.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:55 pm to
you need to shoot me an email. We never talked about this and i'm not airing my divorce over the interwebs.

meauxjeaux2@yahoo.

let me know when you get it.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 6:57 pm to
Got it MJ2. Inbound soon.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:31 pm to
If you are religious and believe there is only one perfect will for everyone, then you want to go back. Otherwise, no.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8713 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:34 pm to
You need to stop putting the pussy on a pedestal.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
20669 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:44 pm to
Nope
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