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re: Florida sheriff tells it like it is. “Throw a brick and we will kill you graveyard dead”

Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102582 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:07 pm to
If I was comfortable with a government that requires me to pass through checkpoints and produce my documents whenever they demand it, I'd move to China. But that's just me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21487 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:11 pm to
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. I can produce my birth certificate in 20 minutes.


"I promise I am a citizen".

That passport looks fake, in the paddy wagon you go, and sorry you don't get a court date to argue with me.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12035 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:11 pm to
No government employee can be judge, jury and executioner.

It doesn't matter how you feel about the protestors, no government official has the right to declare that they will murder you if they don't like the law you are breaking.

Threatening bodily harm and death from a government official should have all the small government conservatives here up in arms... but go blue or some shite.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
434 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:12 pm to
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I'd move to China


Maybe you should, I have no problem producing my proof of what country I am from. I have lived in and traveled to many countries, my passport has many stamps and I have be respectful to any country I have been in and submitted to requests of my passport. The pic in my avatar I took myself.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
434 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:14 pm to
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That passport looks fake, in the paddy wagon you go, and sorry you don't get a court date to argue with me.


You are trying too hard.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43791 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:15 pm to
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my passport has many stamps
I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
434 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:16 pm to
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I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany


Good for you?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21487 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:18 pm to
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You are trying too hard.


You'll have to pardon me if I like the rights in the constitution.

I am curious how you'll fight for recourse when you don't have a court date to look forward to though.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130744 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:19 pm to
Every protester that does anything more that stand somewhere out of the way and protest should get lit up.

And if they are Americans protesting America, send the IRS to their house.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34262 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:19 pm to
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If I was comfortable with a government that requires me to pass through checkpoints and produce my documents whenever they demand it, I'd move to China. But that's just me.


So you're saying that every time you get pulled over for a potential moving violation you want a court date? Or do you just show your license and registration?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102582 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Threatening bodily harm and death from a government official should have all the small government conservatives here up in arms... but go blue or some shite.


Most people don't have any principles. It's all about tribalism. The other tribe does it and it's time to burn down the world. Their tribe does it and it's keeping America safe.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19951 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:21 pm to
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So you're saying that every time you get pulled over for a potential moving violation you want a court date? Or do you just show your license and registration?

You intentionally conflating an event with probable cause with something requiring no probable cause? Seems disingenuous af to make that analogy.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34262 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:21 pm to
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"I promise I am a citizen".

That passport looks fake, in the paddy wagon you go, and sorry you don't get a court date to argue with me.


So you're suggesting that the only check to confirm whether they're a citizen or not, before they get sent somewhere outside the country, is a check of a document by the ICE agent on the scene? And that there are no other checks that happen with any databases or levels of law enforcement or the courts?

Just from the streets right to a seat on a plane?
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
434 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:24 pm to
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You intentionally conflating an event with probable cause with something requiring no probable cause?


So entering a country illegally is not probable cause?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34262 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

It doesn't matter how you feel about the protestors, no government official has the right to declare that they will murder you if they don't like the law you are breaking.

Threatening bodily harm and death from a government official should have all the small government conservatives here up in arms... but go blue or some shite.


You need to listen more closely to what he said, as he chose his words carefully. Attempting to murder a cop through any of the means he mentioned, or pointing a gun at them, will get you shot by them...as it should.

There's an easy way to avoid that fate, believe it or not.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35133 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:25 pm to
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3 million


Deported or turned away at the border?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34262 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:26 pm to
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So entering a country illegally is not probable cause?


I think he thinks ICE agents are just grabbing dudes who look El Salvadoran or Venezuelan, for example, and tossing them on planes headed south. And that they're not instead looking for specific people who they know to be illegals who have been given an order to leave.

Baw needs to stop reading the lefty Facebook memes.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21487 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:26 pm to
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So you're suggesting that the only check to confirm whether they're a citizen or not, before they get sent somewhere outside the country, is a check of a document by the ICE agent on the scene? And that there are no other checks that happen with any databases or levels of law enforcement or the courts?

Just from the streets right to a seat on a plane?


The person I was responding to was asking why have a court date at all, as if no due process is necessary.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102582 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:27 pm to
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So you're saying that every time you get pulled over for a potential moving violation you want a court date? Or do you just show your license and registration?


If I'm pulled over for a violation, I get due process. I get to have my day in court if I wish to contest the ticket. The officer can't immediately debit my bank account for the fine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:28 pm to
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Most people don't have any principles. It's all about tribalism


Never more evident than the current times. Its easier to control herds than it is to chase strays.
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