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re: Florida is putting an end to all school vaccine mandates

Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:51 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46020 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:51 am to
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Why does it feel like this country is moving backwards and not forwards.

It starts at the top.

Our current president and last president are both embarrassments to this nation and people are/were cheering both on.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37794 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:07 am to
I think we are over correcting here. On one hand I believe the vaccine schedule has exploded and is too much. On the other, several have shown to be effective with decades of data to support it. The covid vaccine was rushed and didn't have data to support efficacy and shouldn't stand in the way of something like polio
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13184 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:07 am to
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Wow what a meltdown


I ain't going to meltdown...I understand full well how good life is in the United States...I ain't living without AC.....I don't fantasize about mythical good old days because I know damn well today is better than yesterday and not as good as tomorrow...if that is melting down I am proud to melt!


Where's the files at???/ BAHAHAHAHAHAH....melt down. That shite is funny....
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6358 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:12 am to
Brilliant!
Bring back chickenpox, the mumps, measles and croop.
Not to mention polio. Nothing wrong with a little tetanus.
Freedom man - the right to spread my germs to others.

Isn't far-right socialism just dandy!
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20073 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:15 am to
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Why does it feel like this country is moving backwards and not forwards.

We've shunned progression and embraced conservatism.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:18 am to
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In my 75 years of life, I know of only 1 person who had meningitis. Now all of a sudden people “NEED” meningitis vaccinations?


- This response was assisted by an AI agent.

There are two types of meningitis, bacterial and viral. Bacterial meningitis is rare, affecting around 4,100 individuals annually (1.33 cases per 100,000 people), while viral meningitis is more common, with about 75,000 cases per year.

There are about 2,600 cases of bacterial meningitis per year. Meningococcal disease can be deadly but vaccines have dramatically reduced the prevalence of some forms of bacterial meningitis. Infants, young children, college students, and the elderly are most vulnerable. Early treatment, especially antibiotics for bacterial meningitis, is crucial for preventing serious complications and death.

Viral meningitis is more common and generally less severe than its bacterial counterpart. There are approximately 75,000 cases of enteroviral meningitis each year in the U.S.



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There has been NO meningitis vaccine for 95% of my lifetime.


The first quadrivalent conjugate vaccine (MCV-4) in the United States was licensed in 2005, offering protection against serogroups A, C, W-135, and Y. More have been developed since. So a vaccine for bacterial meningitis has been available for 27% of your life.



Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85787 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:24 am to
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Isn't far-right socialism just dandy!


This bears no resemblance to socialism.

Personally, I don't think this is the move. I think Florida should have continued on the path it was on - building a counter to the political scientific consensus of DC that led to the lost of trust in expertise. Let the FL department of health make real decisions about mandatory vaccines for those shown over the decades to be effective, and make decisive moves in the other direction as needed.

But, at the same time, a sensible society would go "wow those chickens of politicizing everything are coming home to roost" and would correct in response to this. But they won't.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13184 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Conservative leadership has lost its damn mind. Hilarious that conservatives are as bad now as, if not worse than, the left wing nuts they bitched about.

Both sides suck, but stupidity is shared amongst them.


The problem is there is no where for a moderate to reside politically....one has to either support a right wing nut or a left wing nut and when one chooses a side they have to fully support that decision come what may. Once upon a time, as recently as the 70s, moderates could be elected to office because Americans were serious people who were not pampered and allowed to openly embrace their deepest and darkest thoughts and desires and ideas. About the time Phil Donahue and Oprah Winfrey came along and found a way to make some serious money by allowing folks who ought to have kept their thoughts to themselves a platform to openly and without any consequence talk about anything that popped into their heads. It has lead us to a point where its common to see a politicians name on a flag tied to a truck on a Tuesday in June....for no reason other than that idiots desire to be seen as toeing the line and worshipping a politician, an occupation we used to see as a necessary evil which we have allowed to warp into some sort of god like station.

It used to be that progressives, liberals, whatever the frick you call them, would come up with all manner of convoluted shite and conservatives would apply the brakes....and it worked. It created the fairest and healthiest middle class in the history of mankind and the fruits of that spread over the world in mostly benign fashion. At some point around about 1980 this changed. Conservatives were done applying the brakes, they wanted to throw the car in reverse. It has gotten worse. Meanwhile liberals continued to come up with all sorts of convoluted ideas but the adults, the conservatives, were to busy back up to realize there actual roll in society was to allow time for society to adjust at a reasonable pace. This has evolved into about 25% of the country dreaming of returning to some mythical time which never existed and 25% who think gender specific public bathrooms are a terrible encroachment on civil liberties....and the 50% of normal Americans have NO voice politically. 25% on the left and right are fully on board with killing one another over political differences, are convinced that crime is rampant and that men in dresses should be accepted and applauded and 50% of Americans are too busy living lives that would make the wealthiest kings just 200 years ago green with envy to call idiots out when they say they trust Putin more than Kamala Harris or a parent should be encouraged, not just allowed, to mutilate their child because that child suddenly wants to play with plastic trucks instead of Barbie dolls.

Just in the last 8 months we have seen a politician who won the highest office in the land talk about invading Canada, somehow making Greenland a state, and has said there is no limit to his powers. If he is just joking that ain't no way to lead a nation of 300+ million people and one that is the best and brightest hope for mankind on earth. And most of his supporters at least pretend to think these are all brilliant ideas...some of them actually think they are. The left also has its share of lunatics. New York just more or less nominated a socialist as their mayor. There will be an election but its pretty much a foregone conclusion he will be mayor of the most important city in not only the US but the world. Thats a fricking problem. Moderates are too polite and nice to call these idiots out but it is time for the adults to take charge again. The right gave up on it.....they are in full reverse mode and speed is not a concern, the quicker they can alienate the world the better. The left has given up on bi partisan support for common causes in favor of bashing and pretending like the nuts on the right are the norm on the right. Its time for moderation but its unlikely to happen anytime soon and without some major pain....the pendulum is going to swing wildly to the left as it has to the right, its what pendulums do....and its unlikely to get back to some stability without something truly painful happening, something that 50% of the nuts in American seem to want more than anything they can think of.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29990 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:54 pm to
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If anyone can explain to me why a newborn needs hepatitis a vaccine, I'm listening.


What schedule is the hep vax listed for newborns?
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2239 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:57 pm to
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There is a lot of data out there that suggest the measles shot caused more measles.


Please post the data because this is absolute bullshite.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29990 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:09 pm to
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We've shunned progression and embraced conservatism.


If you think what you are seeing is conservatism, you are woefully mistaken. It makes as much sense as calling a man in a wig and dress a woman. You are confusing fringe reactionary populism for conservatism. If you support that fine, but don't kid yourself that it has anything more than a whiff of conservatism wrapped up in it.

BTW you should have called progressivism progressivism, calling it progression is far too kind and the opposite of what you meant.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:10 pm to
The Epstein files seem to be uniting the left and the right. Everybody hates pedophilia.
Posted by Shameless
Member since Jan 2017
914 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:29 pm to
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My cousin is developmentally delayed, in a wheel chair, and deaf because my aunt had measles when she was pregnant with him But hey, she didn’t die so cool beans


For every one of these stories, is a story of an otherwise healthy and happy kid suffering a vaccine-related injury.

This works both ways, but I think it’s hilarious how many people want to sling shite on both sides of this controversial topic. Just let people make the best decisions for themselves and their families. You’re killing your kids with the shite we feed them anyway
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29990 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:50 pm to
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For every one of these stories, is a story of an otherwise healthy and happy kid suffering a vaccine-related injury.


The statement is accurate as long as you accept the precondition that temporal correlation is the equivalent of causation.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
60317 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Florida is putting an end to all school vaccine mandates


Well good….let’s do a little experiment on the Florida Man. That will be the ultimate experiment to show whether vaccine mandates are useful.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
508 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:07 pm to
Make vaccines great again.

But seriously, what a bunch of knuckleheads. Glad I’m not raising kids right now. Hope they enjoy paying for their kid’s polio medical bills.
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