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re: Flood insurance plus content
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:40 pm to bee Rye
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:40 pm to bee Rye
The same way people don't understand why the sky is blue, or how a positrac works.
Insurance can be complicated for those who don't deal with it often. There are plenty of things that I don't understand that others would scoff at. I'm more amazed at how underinsured some people can be.
Insurance can be complicated for those who don't deal with it often. There are plenty of things that I don't understand that others would scoff at. I'm more amazed at how underinsured some people can be.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:46 pm to bee Rye
Well some of can get really confusing and there is really no way to hit up all thenca berate nuances in a policy
But there is never an excuse for not knowing how much building and contents coverage you have
Everyone should as least have a basic knowledge of what appears on their dec page
But there is never an excuse for not knowing how much building and contents coverage you have
Everyone should as least have a basic knowledge of what appears on their dec page
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:50 pm to jimjackandjose
This insurance is through the NFIP and only written by your agent, they don't overwrite it and have very little interest in it being the best thing for their clients'. After Katrina, I had a flood policy that paid less than I was insured for because I was covered for less than 80% of the home value. I got really arse raped even though I knew the adjuster.
I feel like our agents' write these polices because they have to and don't inform their clients fully because they're just going through the motions on it as part of something else. Agents who write NFIP policies should be more engaged than they are and just like any government subsidy, it's poorly implemented.
There are a ton of people who are about to realize the kind of challenges that people in NOLA went through post-Katrina and will probably regret many of the things they said about the situation. It's easy to criticize from the outside looking in and I hope there's less of that for you guys' that will be going through it now. Word to the wise, your adjuster for NFIP claims is more on your side than you know but the law is the law and NFIP buyer's who think they're totally covered beware.
I feel like our agents' write these polices because they have to and don't inform their clients fully because they're just going through the motions on it as part of something else. Agents who write NFIP policies should be more engaged than they are and just like any government subsidy, it's poorly implemented.
There are a ton of people who are about to realize the kind of challenges that people in NOLA went through post-Katrina and will probably regret many of the things they said about the situation. It's easy to criticize from the outside looking in and I hope there's less of that for you guys' that will be going through it now. Word to the wise, your adjuster for NFIP claims is more on your side than you know but the law is the law and NFIP buyer's who think they're totally covered beware.
This post was edited on 8/15/16 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:51 pm to jimjackandjose
I do not have content coverage. Well dog gone. I should have read
My flood insurance policy better. I assumed all was covered. That's what I get for assuming.
My flood insurance policy better. I assumed all was covered. That's what I get for assuming.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:59 pm to TakeAGander
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I do not have content coverage. Well dog gone. I should have read
I hate to be an ahole... but it is your home contents. It might be worth some time to read the policy or ask a question or two. Not trying to be a smart arse but it is important to have adequate coverage. I agree with other posters. Some agents sell on the cheap and the customers take a hit on a catastrophic loss. I buy houses from realtors, cars from car salesmen and insurance from agents... I do my research on it all.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 11:26 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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hate to be an ahole... but it is your home contents.
You shouldn't be an ahole because the people who go to their agents' for advice for their policies' don't get the same effort for their NFIP Policies as they do for other policies'. Mortgage companies only care about themselves and this all results in a ton of ignorance that doesn't exist for the typical homeowners policy. Let everyone pass judgement though just like they did 10 years ago, it'll make everyone feel really great about themselves...
Posted on 8/15/16 at 11:36 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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No flood policy covers additional living expenses (hotel/displacement costs)
Is this covered by a different policy, and if so, can it be used in this situation where someone doesn't have flood, but has that other type of insurance?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 11:43 pm to GRTiger
Loss of use is under your Homeowner's and likely not covered during a Flood event. If it is covered, expect to pay the deductible for that separately.
I've so much empathy for the folks in that region, Katrina nearly broke me. Bon chance
I've so much empathy for the folks in that region, Katrina nearly broke me. Bon chance
Posted on 8/15/16 at 11:45 pm to GRTiger
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Is this covered by a different policy, and if so, can it be used in this situation where someone doesn't have flood, but has that other type of insurance?
Homeowners covers it but only if a loss covered under the homeowners policy makes the home uninhabitable. House fire or tornado and it is covered every time. Flood nada (even if flood is covered by another policy). Flood is a very barebones coverage that is intended for catastrophic events to help people recover. Homeowners is a superior policy except for the fact it doesn't cover flood losses.
I live 240 miles north of the New Madrid fault line. Many friends purchase earth quake coverage. For $200 a year I could too. I am gambling on the fact it won't happen and cause significant damage this far away. I am assuming that risk. If it happens I won't be upset with anyone except myself for not playing it safer.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 11:56 pm to Canard Noir
I can understand this outlook and any good agent should explain the basics of your coverages but honestly sometimes the insured just does not care, they let someone else like their lender or real estate agent take care of insurance and don't get involved personally with their insurance or even speak to the insurance agent. They care about the bottom dollar and don't recognize the consequences of that until it is too late
They simply do it because it is what is required my their lender or they assume a real estate agent or lender knows what they need
You should never rely completely on any individual for this or make any assumptions when it comes to your livelihood. It only takes a couple minutes and a few questions to avoid some of these situations. Get involved even if it is just to ask a few questions
What's covered, for how much, what is my deductible. Ask questions and don't stay on the sidelines
Typically in the instances there is blamed to be shared. Much like any important transaction, communication by all parties is key
They simply do it because it is what is required my their lender or they assume a real estate agent or lender knows what they need
You should never rely completely on any individual for this or make any assumptions when it comes to your livelihood. It only takes a couple minutes and a few questions to avoid some of these situations. Get involved even if it is just to ask a few questions
What's covered, for how much, what is my deductible. Ask questions and don't stay on the sidelines
Typically in the instances there is blamed to be shared. Much like any important transaction, communication by all parties is key
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 12:03 am
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:07 am to ThePoo
Shitman, I get it too and people in this situation had several recent flood events to learn from but they all think it won't happen to them. People trust their agents' for advice they'd get on every other policy they have but don't get for Flood.
People got a lifetime of "I told you so's," after Katrina and there's little to be gained by doing that here. It sucks, all there is to it.
People got a lifetime of "I told you so's," after Katrina and there's little to be gained by doing that here. It sucks, all there is to it.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:27 am to Canard Noir
not saying I told you so.
I have sold insurance, been an insurance attorney, and a closing attorney. I have seen E&Os for all sorts of reasons. I have dealt with hundreds of lenders, insurance agents, and real estate agents
The biggest problem I have come across if I am being honest, is that people will forsake their best interest to save a quick buck (and who can blame them, rates are crazy now), they are simply looking for the lowest number they can find. Some recognize the consequences of that at the time and some do not until it is too late. There are many honest great agents out their that lose lots of business to agents that are undercutting them at the expense of the insured. I have also seen honest and good agents lose in court because the insured did not take advice given to them by the agent
So my advice, not pointing fingers, but my advice is this. at the bare minimum on any policy involving your home spend 10 minutes on the phone with your agent to ask questions about coverages that would appear on any one or 2 page dec. If you do not see it on a quote proposal do not assume it is covered. If you feel like the process was too quick and simple, there is a chance that is the case. Ask about your deductibles, ask about contents coverage, loss of use, other structures, liability. There are good real estate agents and lenders and insurance agents and there are some bad ones just looking to push numbers across.
Have a dialogue with your agent, every insured is different and the best way he can know how to serve you is if you express to him your concerns and wants. 99% of agents will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have and if they do not, get another agent. Also get your agents number, you aren't limited to calling them just when you purchase insurance, as your agent they should be available to you to answer questions when you have them. If you have an agent that you can never get a hold of and does not respond to emails or voicemails, get another agent
Make no assumptions when it comes to your livelihood as unfortunately we do not have that luxury this day in age
advice, not finger pointing
I have sold insurance, been an insurance attorney, and a closing attorney. I have seen E&Os for all sorts of reasons. I have dealt with hundreds of lenders, insurance agents, and real estate agents
The biggest problem I have come across if I am being honest, is that people will forsake their best interest to save a quick buck (and who can blame them, rates are crazy now), they are simply looking for the lowest number they can find. Some recognize the consequences of that at the time and some do not until it is too late. There are many honest great agents out their that lose lots of business to agents that are undercutting them at the expense of the insured. I have also seen honest and good agents lose in court because the insured did not take advice given to them by the agent
So my advice, not pointing fingers, but my advice is this. at the bare minimum on any policy involving your home spend 10 minutes on the phone with your agent to ask questions about coverages that would appear on any one or 2 page dec. If you do not see it on a quote proposal do not assume it is covered. If you feel like the process was too quick and simple, there is a chance that is the case. Ask about your deductibles, ask about contents coverage, loss of use, other structures, liability. There are good real estate agents and lenders and insurance agents and there are some bad ones just looking to push numbers across.
Have a dialogue with your agent, every insured is different and the best way he can know how to serve you is if you express to him your concerns and wants. 99% of agents will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have and if they do not, get another agent. Also get your agents number, you aren't limited to calling them just when you purchase insurance, as your agent they should be available to you to answer questions when you have them. If you have an agent that you can never get a hold of and does not respond to emails or voicemails, get another agent
Make no assumptions when it comes to your livelihood as unfortunately we do not have that luxury this day in age
advice, not finger pointing
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 12:50 am
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:45 am to BamaCoaster
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I'm an agent, and I don't believe in hell.
Well, that's a risk. Maybe you should get insurance, just in case.
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