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Flock cameras lead to another innocent motorist pulled over at gunpoint
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:35 am
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Flock camera error
What we know
Take a look at this video from yesterday on I-94 in Waukesha County. You see multiple officers with guns drawn – and a passenger sticking their hands out the window.
Police pulled the car over after a Flock camera flagged it for a Milwaukee homicide.
But when Brookfield Police called Milwaukee Police Department, MPD said they no longer needed the car or the people inside, so officers let them go.
LINK to video, Fox6 news out of Milwaukee
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:42 am to NYNolaguy1
I hope these citizens know it was worth it to catch a porch pirate
Even worse
Flock has a police department detaining citizens to protect their profits.
Even worse
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Waukesha Police are searching for a suspect who struck a Flock camera with a metal pole.
Flock has a police department detaining citizens to protect their profits.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:44 am to NYNolaguy1
They caught a couple stolen vehicles near my area that were just passing through and one of them was a violent guy with a stolen firearm.
There is good and bad here. I know they'll get abused/misused, but they have gotten some bad hombres off the streets too.
There is good and bad here. I know they'll get abused/misused, but they have gotten some bad hombres off the streets too.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:46 am to CatfishJohn
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. I know they'll get abused/misused, but they have gotten some bad hombres off the streets too.
Doubtful, the person they caught likely got flipped back out on parole.
You gave up your privacy though.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:47 am to NYNolaguy1
Time to sue the Flock company into oblivion
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:49 am to CatfishJohn
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There is good and bad here. I know they'll get abused/misused, but they have gotten some bad hombres off the streets too.
I'd rather have some crime with more freedom than vice versa, but that's just me. Fun fact, a lot of jurisdictions that have adopted them can't show a meaningful drop in crime, while still dramatically increasing surveillance on everyone, stored on questionable legal and cyber security grounds (it's stored in Amazon Web Services cloud).
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:54 am to CatfishJohn
quote:You don’t fix the problem by surveilling everyone.
There is good and bad here. I know they'll get abused/misused, but they have gotten some bad hombres off the streets too.
You fix it by locking criminals away.
You guys support the retard version of fixing the issue.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 9:55 am
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:57 am to NYNolaguy1
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Fun fact, a lot of jurisdictions that have adopted them can't show a meaningful drop in crime, while still dramatically increasing surveillance on everyone, stored on questionable legal and cyber security grounds (it's stored in Amazon Web Services cloud).
It is almost like it isn't about crime at all......
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:59 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:Just like red light cameras.
It is almost like it isn't about crime at all......
It is all about money.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:59 am to CatfishJohn
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There is good and bad here.
Just think if we all wore ankle monitors, that'd surely help.
The premise is wrong. Police work is supposed to be difficult and rights protect individuals from lazy police work.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:00 am to Scruffy
I don't support, just saying I can see an argument for them.
We call them LPRs around here and they also have blue lights on them. One at both entrances to my neighborhood and I think they probably scares bad actors away as well.
I am not an expert on this subject, just stating anecdotal experience.
I also love freedom and hate a nanny state, so I'd probably lean towards being against them being used by the government. Maybe our neighborhood should just have private cameras and share the videos if a crime occurs.
We call them LPRs around here and they also have blue lights on them. One at both entrances to my neighborhood and I think they probably scares bad actors away as well.
I am not an expert on this subject, just stating anecdotal experience.
I also love freedom and hate a nanny state, so I'd probably lean towards being against them being used by the government. Maybe our neighborhood should just have private cameras and share the videos if a crime occurs.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:01 am to NYNolaguy1
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I'd rather have some crime with more freedom than vice versa, but that's just me. Fun fact, a lot of jurisdictions that have adopted them can't show a meaningful drop in crime, while still dramatically increasing surveillance on everyone, stored on questionable legal and cyber security grounds (it's stored in Amazon Web Services cloud).
I couldn't agree more.
These cameras are bad today in their current form but everyone needs to recognize this is just a stepping stone. This technology is going to evolve in a frightening direction. And it's going to happen much quicker than anyone realizes.
It's a classic "mission creep". The infrastructure is rapidly expanding and it's just a base to continually roll out new and terrifying features without any new equipment.
Every single one should be taken down. This technology is moving way too fast for our laws or courts to properly address. This is just a small piece of a larger societal problem and it's a big one.
Our laws, elections and courts move very slow. This used to have some benefit but AI is plowing ahead at a pace most people cannot comprehend.
It's not a matter of do something before it's too late. It's already too late. This will end in a bad way.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:01 am to slacker130
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Just think if we all wore ankle monitors, that'd surely help. The premise is wrong. Police work is supposed to be difficult and rights protect individuals from lazy police work.
This.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:01 am to fightin tigers
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Flock has a police department detaining citizens to protect their profits.
And those Amazon shareholders.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:03 am to Scruffy
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Just like red light cameras.
Not sure where you are, but red light cams lessened intersection crashes by quite a bit here.
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It is all about money.
Agreed. One of the biggest reasons people contested the tickets though was the state had to prove you were the one driving the car. And they couldn't
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:12 am to Tiger985
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These cameras are bad today in their current form but everyone needs to recognize this is just a stepping stone. This technology is going to evolve in a frightening direction. And it's going to happen much quicker than anyone realizes.
It's a classic "mission creep". The infrastructure is rapidly expanding and it's just a base to continually roll out new and terrifying features without any new equipment.
Every single one should be taken down. This technology is moving way too fast for our laws or courts to properly address. This is just a small piece of a larger societal problem and it's a big one.
Our laws, elections and courts move very slow. This used to have some benefit but AI is plowing ahead at a pace most people cannot comprehend.
It's not a matter of do something before it's too late. It's already too late. This will end in a bad way.
You'd think this would be an easy election year item, but the claws are in deep here. It's not going to get resolved through any legislature (too much lobbying by both FLOCK and LEO), the only solution is the courts, public pressure is going nowhere.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:14 am to NYNolaguy1
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Fun fact, a lot of jurisdictions that have adopted them can't show a meaningful drop in crime, while still dramatically increasing surveillance on everyone, stored on questionable legal and cyber security grounds (it's stored in Amazon Web Services cloud).
Yep.
Safety is simply the sales pitch.
Your movement data is the product.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:51 am to Salmon
The stories of LEOs abusing access to Flock cameras coming out daily should be enough to get these things shut down.
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