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re: FL taxpayers to absorb over 1 billion in bond obligations due to Disney exemption repeal

Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:25 am to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:25 am to
It figures you’d deflect from the substance of that post.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:25 am to
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Putting more taxes on the citizens to own the libs



Libs complaining about more taxes to own the cons
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:25 am to
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Would you vote for him, full stop?


No. I don't vote R or D for president.

He's 1000x the man Biden is though.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:26 am to
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Libs complaining about more taxes to own the cons
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101462 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:26 am to
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dont say gay bill,
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where in the bill does it say the word gay?

Give him a minute to find the approved statement.


anybody who supports teaching sex ed to 4-5 year olds has serious issues.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33382 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:27 am to
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FL taxpayers to absorb over 1 billion in bond obligations due to Disney exemption repeal

idiot

Disney claims to pay over 200M in taxes each year, but only writes a check to the county for 40M. Now they will have to pay the whole bill. Which is probably based on drastically reduced assessments anyway.

That billion dollars will be paid off in 3 years with legitimate assessments, without a single dime of taxpayer money, once Disney coughs up the what is really owed to the county
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:27 am to
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substance of that post.


Not once in your E-life have you contributed an original thought that added any substance. You aren't capable of doing that.

You are owned 100% by white progressives who tell you everything you then come here and repeat.

The "don't say Gay bill" is pure manipulation of you, by white people.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109722 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:28 am to
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Disney on top of disagreeing with the dont say gay bill, also stopped donating to all politicians. It could be argued that Ron was more unhappy about Disney not donating to politicians than their stances in general.



How much did they give to him previously?

Did they give anything to his last opponent as well?

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:29 am to

I can respect that.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:29 am to
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Yep.

ETA: They don't even have to do that though. They could simply pass a property tax that applies only to "entities of certain size/revenue level" or however they need to word it to enact a tax that brings Disney to the level of taxation they were providing to RCID and Orange County combined previously, and then use that increase to pay for the general obligation warrants.



Nope.

quote:

State law prevents the counties from raising sales taxes or impact fees to cover the costs. They also must tax all areas of the county equally, meaning whatever they enact must apply to everyone.




Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:29 am to
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where in the bill does it say the word gay?


I like how we pretend bills have never been giving different monikers. “Obamacare” is no where in the ACA bill, but nobody loses their mind when it’s called that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:29 am to
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Did they give anything to his last opponent as well?


the Democrat great black hope in Florida
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:30 am to
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have never been giving different monikers


"Don't say gay" is pure emotional appeal that comes nothing close to what is happening. Its simple propaganda that you bought.

You people are so fricking dumb. No wonder you NEED collectivism and feminism. You can't survive without.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 10:32 am
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130444 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:32 am to
I wouldn’t know the answers to those questions, but one would think that an apolitical approach with donations would keep Ron from going off the deep end.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12184 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:33 am to
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will fall on local taxpayers


Who will then do what Disney did: issue bonds to pay for those infrastructure expenses over time
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101462 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:33 am to
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where in the bill does it say the word gay?


I like how we pretend bills have never been giving different monikers. “Obamacare” is no where in the ACA bill, but nobody loses their mind when it’s called that.



you think it's the same thing? One is to refence the person who pushed free healthcare and the other is being used as a weapon to silence those who support the bill which has nothing to do with targeting gay people.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9569 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:35 am to
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I like how we pretend bills have never been giving different monikers. “Obamacare” is no where in the ACA bill, but nobody loses their mind when it’s called that.


Yeah, the "don't say gay" stuff is dumb.

It should be called the groomers bill for pedophiles. Bunch of sick fricks.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:35 am to
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Reedy Creek (Disney) is a self-governing special tax district. They have something like a billion in bond obligations. Just because Reedy Creek goes away doesn’t mean the debt magically disappears. It is absorbed by the area where the tax district existed, which is the county. So now those county taxpayers are on the hook.


I get it. But couldn't the county then just raise tax on Disney?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9585 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:36 am to
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And you are ignoring the fact Disney will still require water, sewage, law enforcement and fire protection they no longer have and will have to pay the counties for through increased taxes.

Everybody is losing in this nonsense not just local; governments.


I don’t know specifics to Florida and counties with various fees or taxes (including sales tax), but elsewhere I have seen local govt have an easy time increasing the price on higher usage levels of garbage, water, and sewage on top of increasing exemption amounts while raising property taxes. Throw in increasing permit fees and other fees like for zoning and planning that Disney hasn’t had to pay since the 60s I am sure Disney will make up any differences in revenue one way or the other.

They can also redo a new tax district but under the state’s current constitution instead of the one in place in the 60s that got grandfathered in with new constitution.

This district has been challenged in the past. I think Orange County did it before, but then accepted millions from Disney to not challenge it again until mid to late 90s. Since then Orange has become overwhelming Democrat, and suddenly for some reason (hint-2022 & 2024 elections) these Democrats act like they don’t know how to tax and spend and also that they love crony capitalism and corporate welfare.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 10:39 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:38 am to
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, but then accepted millions from Disney to not challenge it again until mid to late 90s.


Everyone should be sick of corporate welfare.
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