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re: five states voting on legalisation of recreational marijuana use today

Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Freezus22
Da Boot
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 am to
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But, but, children are overdosing, more car accidents, smoking and driving OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah people never drink and drive which lead to car accidents. That never happens.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:01 am to
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You have to think long term though. Once it is legalized nation wide, whether that be in 10 years or 100 years, the amount of companys who still test for it will most likely drop to zero.


you are a bit fuzzy on why employers do the test it seems.

Very few want to do drug test for pot, their liability insurance requires it.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50720 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:04 am to
legalization is a public health issue, not a stoner free-for-all

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They found that, in the 17 states with a medical-marijuana law in place by 2013, prescriptions for painkillers and other classes of drugs fell sharply compared with states that did not have a medical-marijuana law. The drops were quite significant: In medical-marijuana states, the average doctor prescribed 265 fewer doses of antidepressants each year, 486 fewer doses of seizure medication, 541 fewer anti-nausea doses and 562 fewer doses of anti-anxiety medication.

But most strikingly, the typical physician in a medical-marijuana state prescribed 1,826 fewer doses of painkillers in a given year.


Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:06 am to
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A federal change should be in order soon.



If I were advising Trump, I would tell him to reschedule birth control pills as OTC and marijuana at Schedule II (at a bare minimum) on his first day in office. Might calm some fears on the left and bring some Clintonistas/Berniebots/Paulestinians abroad the MAGA train.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:07 am to
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Very few want to do drug test for pot, their liability insurance requires it.


Some places do it for an on the job accident, and otherwise don't bother.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:07 am to
and not insubstantially, it is also a public safety issue

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The latest data from the U.S. Border Patrol shows that last year, marijuana seizures along the southwest border tumbled to their lowest level in at least a decade. Agents snagged roughly 1.5 million pounds of marijuana at the border, down from a peak of nearly 4 million pounds in 2009.


Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24051 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:30 am to
Voters said YES in 3/5 states on the ballot, with Maine a probable YES as well once 100% of precincts report. The only failure was Arizona. Several states either voted in or expanded medical as well.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 10:39 am
Posted by The Bruce
Member since Dec 2013
951 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:43 pm to
What is Trump's stance on weed? Will he leave the states alone? Have DEA reschedule? Have DEA go after weed businesses?
Posted by Chum Bucket
West Palm Beach
Member since Oct 2011
977 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 1:26 pm to
Nobody smokes that swag shite anymore. Can't give it away...
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:45 pm to
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What is Trump's stance on weed? Will he leave the states alone? Have DEA reschedule? Have DEA go after weed businesses?



Early 90s Trump wanted to end the war on drugs, to try to eliminate the cartels.

Now, he's against recreational marijuana, but spoke in favor of medical marijuana. I'm hoping it was just election talk.
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
3136 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:50 pm to
6 hours? I think I would not drink at least 12 hours prior. How long after drinking can one be tested positive?

Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Early 90s Trump wanted to end the war on drugs, to try to eliminate the cartels.

Now, he's against recreational marijuana, but spoke in favor of medical marijuana. I'm hoping it was just election talk.


His whole platform was election talk if you just listen to what he believed in 15 years ago.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36656 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:02 pm to
I'm about to leave Louisiana just to be able to go somewhere so I can use weed as medication and be able to work while using it. I hate our laws
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:17 pm to
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I'm about to leave Louisiana just to be able to go somewhere so I can use weed as medication and be able to work while using it. I hate our laws




Technically, doesn't really today yet. It depends on your industry. But it's is one that receives any federal funding, the Fed's are the ones the require testing, not the insurance companies.

Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46125 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm about to leave Louisiana just to be able to go somewhere so I can use weed as medication and be able to work while using it. I hate our laws


Yeah. LA sucks.

Hopefully trump leads the push for medical. But I'm sure pretty much nothing will get done at a higher level as usual.

"We are looking at more important issues"
Which makes me so angry people don't realize that this is a big issue
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50720 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:41 pm to
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Which makes me so angry people don't realize that this is a big issue


things its good for:

-public health
-public safety
-tax revenue
-jobs creation
-agricultural husbandry R&D

things its bad for:

-pharmaceutical companies
-for-profit incarceration
-the war on drugs infrastructure & bureaucracy
-police/law enforcement budgets

i'll let you pick which side has the lobbyists and money men behind it
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46125 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:54 pm to
It just frustrates me that this gets pushed off to the side by most as just a petty thing some people want. Because it's way more massive than that.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50720 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:24 pm to
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It just frustrates me that this gets pushed off to the side by most as just a petty thing some people want. Because it's way more massive than that.


get involved
tell your state representatives, senators and your governor that this issue is important to you. do not accept the stereotype of the stoner just wanting legal weed to stay high and eat funyuns

i am fifty years old, a business owner, an employer and within my market a significant contributor to the economy. i smoke regularly for debilitating back pain, as does my wife as a substitute for methotrexate. it would be nice if i didnt have to break the law to do so
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:44 pm to
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What is Trump's stance on weed? Will he leave the states alone? Have DEA reschedule? Have DEA go after weed businesses?


If he appoints Chris Christie to AG, things will get rough for legal states.

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“The phrase “U.S. Attorney General Chris Christie” should send waves of fear through the legal marijuana industry. Not good, folks. Not good,” Angell wrote in a Twitter post.

Although Donald Trump has remained mostly on the side of allowing states to legalize marijuana however they see fit, the man has not exactly been the most stable of the breed when it comes to his politics. In 1990, Trump told the Sarasota Herald Tribune that “we’re losing the War on Drugs,” and “that you have to legalize drugs to win that war.” But then he turned around last year and told attendees of a Conservative Political Action Conference “they’ve got a lot of problems going on right now in Colorado, some big problems.” Yet, he still claims to support medical marijuana “100 percent,” at least for now.

Chris Christie, the man now apparently positioning himself to control the Department of Justice, has been one of legal marijuana’s most vocal opposing forces, saying earlier last year, “As President of the United States, I will enforce the marijuana laws, because I believe marijuana is a gateway drug that causes our children and adults to use other drugs. I think it lowers productivity. I'm against recreational use… And I am for limited medical use not mandated by the federal government, but permitted by the federal government."

Unfortunately, this means if the next President of the United States is Donald Trump and he appoints Chris Christie to take over as Attorney General, the four states that have legalized marijuana for recreational purposes stand a relatively good chance at being forced to shut down. Also, states like Arizona, California, Maine, and Massachusetts, all seeking to legalize in 2016 through ballot measures, those developments, if passed by the voters, could be forbade to even take effect under a Trump regime. In short, the cannabis industry is in serious jeopardy. As it stands, the federal government simply considers statewide legalization an “experiment,” and there are no laws in place to stop the next administration from bringing it all to a screeching halt.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50720 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:51 pm to
thats from february

four more states legalized rec use yesterday, including the most populous state in the union. the CO, OR and WA industries and infrastructure (especially CO) are well established, and are generating big returns for those states

quote:

four states that have legalized marijuana for recreational purposes stand a relatively good chance at being forced to shut down


i wont say never, but that is so unlikely
the genie is out of the bottle
there's no going back now

chris christie is not going to head the DOJ anyway. not even a GOP senate would confirm him with criminal charges hanging over his head
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