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re: Five Bama frat stars arrested for hazing

Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
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I mean its not like they dipped a kid's testicles in boiling crab oil.


Yeah I mean all they had to do was volunteer to give themselves frostbite of the feet. Big f'n deal...
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30961 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
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being in the military


My dumb shite frat cousin suggested this to me once and I nearly knocked him out, instead I laughed at the simpleton.Go through OCS, deployment, and real stress while being sober mind you. Then come back and tell me they're the same.
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:12 pm to
There is group think and pressure within ANY group, that's true. I just hate the whole, "I'm so fricking important because I'm in a fraternity and my dad makes 70k/yr as an accountant, and look at this fricking Southern Proper polo". I mean, it's mostly harmless. It's just kids being kids. I'm not saying they are forced to act a certain way, but after being around it I think it's human nature to fall in line at least a little.

Like I said, I loved my fraternity experience and wouldn't trade it for anything. But looking back, some of the attitudes some people had (probably myself at times as well) were straight up sickening although I didn't really realize it at the time. It's easy to become consumed by greek life when your entire life revolves around it for a few years. Everything about it seems to important, but it really couldn't be less important in the real world. But again, that's fine. It really was a great time, but it's funny how perspective changes.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5046 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89679 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:15 pm to
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 dumb shite frat cousin suggested this to me once and I nearly knocked him out, instead I laughed at the simpleton.Go through OCS, deployment, and real stress while being sober mind you. Then come back and tell me they're the same.


I never said they were the same, I said hazing exists in a lot of things, but people want to bash fraternities and call them gay.

But yeah,the military just breads individualism. You got me on that one.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89679 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:22 pm to
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ke I said, I loved my fraternity experience and wouldn't trade it for anything. But looking back, some of the attitudes some people had (probably myself at times as well) were straight up sickening although I didn't really realize it at the time. It's easy to become consumed by greek life when your entire life revolves around it for a few years. Everything about it seems to important, but it really couldn't be less important in the real world. But again, that's fine. It really was a great time, but it's funny how perspective changes.


maybe LSU was diff. I had my friends in the fraternity and friends out of it. It didn't consume my life. I still went to school, still had a job, no one was forced to wear southern proper, don't even think that was around when I was in school. one of my best friends couldn't afford it anymore and dropped. we stayed friends. Again I wasn't forced to do anything. I could make my own decisions.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19446 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Why would you basically whore yourself out and do gay stuff just to join a club of other dudes? No thanks.


So basically you got cut and did it with a bunch of other losers in on campus housing for 4 years?

To each their own.

And if by gay stuff you mean smashing tons of box, landing a badass job and generally kicking arse throughout college. Yeah, I did all of that.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Again I wasn't forced to do anything. I could make my own decisions.


That's exactly what I'm saying. No one is usually forced to do anything. They don't have to be. It would make for an interesting psychology experiment.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30961 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:28 pm to
Fair enough. They're very different as you said. I'm not a frat basher as they can help young men build lasting business relationships, develop communication and social skills, and as you said be part of a group. I think the issue people have is when it comes assaulting as a means of filtering the most qualified individuals. Also when the person loses themselves as an individual in the name of the frat. I have no problem with them.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:29 pm to
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smashing tons of box, landing a badass job and generally kicking arse throughout college. Yeah, I did all of that.


Easily achieved without being in a frat.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19446 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:30 pm to
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It's easy to become consumed by greek life when your entire life revolves around it for a few years.


Luckily at Arkansas, at least with SAEs, no one lives in the house after sophomore year except the executives, and most of them have a place off campus. This basically meant by the time you were a junior, you were never really around the house/involved unless it was something formal.

I think it'd be a lot different at other schools where the involvement lasts most of the 4 years.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:32 pm to
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tokenBoiler

Upvote for you.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19446 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Easily achieved without being in a frat.


At an SEC school? The job part, maybe. But you would have to work a lot harder for it. The rest? Doubtful, very doubtful.

I should have said "prime" box. Not just any dorm skank.
Posted by CoopsjwReed
Miami
Member since Sep 2015
267 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:35 pm to
If George bush had a son, I'd be those kids.

Bunch of smug arse tPOS
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19446 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:37 pm to
He did have a son. And he turned out to be President.

Oh you were referring to W. weren't you.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3864 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Rhino5


Why don't you tell me why fraternity hazing became much more prevalent beginning in the mid 1940s?
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110887 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:49 pm to
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If George bush had a son, I'd be those kids.


No, his son wouldn't be in a second or third rate frat at freaking Bama.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98934 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:51 pm to
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CoopsjwReed


we already have a token here
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
4129 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:52 pm to
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I guarantee you those downvoting you are guys who had to do some pretty gay and homosexual stuff to get admitted to their frat.


Gay and homosexual stuff to get in? No, you just have to be fairly normal, likable, not afraid to socialize and have some money. You typically go to two or three rush parties during the summer or hang out with older guys during football weekends. If they like you or you are a legacy generally you get admitted. There's nothing gay about it.

I'm sure if you join a gay fraternity you have to do gay stuff to get in.
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