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Posted on 12/15/24 at 2:55 pm to braves21
I’ve only fired 3 people. Big corporate environment so not cut throat at all and it takes a lot to get fired. All got warnings and doubled down. Had nobody to blame but themselves.
One was making sexual advances at women
One called in sick 3-4 times a month
One was just flat out lazy and in a critical role. Failed to meet individual goals 3 years in a row. Got put on a PUP and basically gave up at that point.
One was making sexual advances at women
One called in sick 3-4 times a month
One was just flat out lazy and in a critical role. Failed to meet individual goals 3 years in a row. Got put on a PUP and basically gave up at that point.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:05 pm to fjlee90
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I’ve never fired anyone, they’ve all fired themselves. I just inform them.
This is my experience as well. The only people I have ever terminated were such poor workers that the morale of everyone working around them was suffering.
I never fire anyone who does their job and treats others with respect.
When others have to repeatedly pick up your slack? You are fired.
When we have to have meetings because of your poor personal skills? You are fired.
I have never had an employee leave because of a peer being fired. They always thank me after it.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You think they shouldn't be called out on promising raises, in writing, last year.
They were gonna be on next paycheck
Then next pay period .
Then it was some more bullshite,
Like getting a Jelly of the month club subscription,
But they'd be there in first quarter
Then second quarter
You can lick corporate boots but when you do that to workers who are already being underpaid for their field, it's bullshite.
They were gonna be on next paycheck
Then next pay period .
Then it was some more bullshite,
Like getting a Jelly of the month club subscription,
But they'd be there in first quarter
Then second quarter
You can lick corporate boots but when you do that to workers who are already being underpaid for their field, it's bullshite.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:16 pm to MillerLiteTime
Correct. Small company with 15 employees. I’m less concerned about morale in the company after termination. I’m more concerned about the employee speaking poorly about us in the community. However, I figure that’s short lived and my business doesn’t really come from that community. Six months from now no one would talk about the fact that she used to work for us. I think it’s time now.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:17 pm to 777Tiger
I tend to agree. Should have happened a while ago.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:23 pm to braves21
It’s tough but you have to set standards and adhere to them. If employees don’t meet those expectations they are costing you money and need to go
Sometimes a person getting fired learns from it and it makes them a better employee down the road. It’s not always bad
Sometimes a person getting fired learns from it and it makes them a better employee down the road. It’s not always bad
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:33 pm to ETXSully
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I tend to agree. Should have happened a while ago.
if he’s a liability to your company and will be exposed to people you do business with and can have a negative impact he needs to be gone, his final paycheck, vacation buyout, severance, whatever he has, will get him through the holidays
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:36 pm to braves21
My rule for firing someone—I’ve not done my job if they aren’t very clear on why they’re being fired. If I’m very clear, they expect it. I’ve not done my job if an employee is surprised when they get fired.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:37 pm to braves21
It has become so difficult to find good professional employees in South Louisiana that we are relegated to keeping employees who get by doing the bare minimum. Their current quality of work would have gotten them written up for poor performance just a few years ago. Now they receive a documented commitment letter requiring them to improve.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:46 pm to fr33manator
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I was comfortable enough. But I was outspoken and called them on their constant bullshite.
Well, unfortunately, there is your answer.
What type of work do you do?
ETA - FWIW, these types of events usually work out to your benefit. It just sucks to experience it. Growth is painful.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:57 pm to mytigger
I mean I was on the way out anyway. Waiting on the new year for a position to open up, then all that good stuff. This was just out the blue, no warning, for a routine procedure. My supervisor didn't know anything. I wasn't given any sit down talking to in years.
They wouldn't say anything, just middle of the week told me to stay home until I heard back and I knew what was up, but it was chickenshit. Manager dodged all communication for 2 days and finally would only do it over the phone.
But that's par for the course.
They wouldn't say anything, just middle of the week told me to stay home until I heard back and I knew what was up, but it was chickenshit. Manager dodged all communication for 2 days and finally would only do it over the phone.
But that's par for the course.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:00 pm to braves21
Firing someone is going one of the my satisfying things you can do in business..
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:20 pm to braves21
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Seems one thing in common with the millionaires class is they have no problem firing an employee at the drop of a hat.
Why should anyone have a problem with this?
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:25 pm to Honest Tune
This thread will really out the lefties
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:51 pm to braves21
I never had any problems firing the unmotivated underachiever.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:01 pm to braves21
You say this like being able to make a personnel decision, without hesitation, makes a manager cold but in reality it’s cold to keep someone to avoid making the tough decision and putting the burden of that individual’s ineffectiveness on those members of your team that produce.
If the 80/20 rule is prevalent you’ll burn out the our good employees in favor of your weaker ones and, eventually disintegrate your organization.
If the 80/20 rule is prevalent you’ll burn out the our good employees in favor of your weaker ones and, eventually disintegrate your organization.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:29 pm to braves21
People are hired to perform a certain job. If they can’t, they are put on a performance improvement plan. If they still can’t, then they are terminated.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:39 pm to MillerLiteTime
except I resigned of my own choice. I was made the overall manager of a crew of 15 people.
I would counter your statement with the other side of the equation - if I stayed and continued to manage, how soon until the other 14 clued in that I had no real authority?
I would counter your statement with the other side of the equation - if I stayed and continued to manage, how soon until the other 14 clued in that I had no real authority?
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:07 pm to Thracken13
I moved to HR, primarily as a recruiter, several years back from being an OPs manager. So it's always interesting reading these situations. Being a manager, in transportation, I fired 100s of people over the years (most just for not showing up). It was never a surprise for anyone. They always knew it was coming (especially in the Union shops). I stayed friendly with almost all. I even drove one home after walking him off the property. There is a proper way to do it..
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