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re: Female Captain struggles to finish 12 Mile Foot March

Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:08 pm to
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Nice work, Captain. Congratulations.


Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:08 pm to
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I am sure I would have laughed at it once on the first day......but only once!



That's pretty much what happened. When we got to the barracks on the first day he met us outside and "welcomed" us to the "Fifteeth Cavoree" (15th Cavalry). Of course there were a few snickers. Right after that the barracks doors went flying open and drill sergeants came streaming out like ants from an ant bed that had just been kicked. They then proceeded to cuss and smoke us for what seems hours. One thing I remember in particular was having to stand at attention with my arms straight out holding a duffle bag full of clothes, uniforms, and gear in each hand and having to drop them, pick them up again, resume attention for a while then having to repeat the process over and over. That's on top of periods of dropping for push-ups. They smoked us so much that after it was over and we were allowed in the barracks to put our stuff away, I could not lift my arms from my sides. I won't even lie, that night I lay in my bunk and cried myself to sleep because I was 100% certain that I had made the worst mistake of my life and I was going to die at freaking Ft. Knox, KY.

(I survived of course and even graduated. However, we did have one kid die while running remedial PT one Sunday afternoon.)
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37565 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:10 pm to
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(I survived of course and even graduated. However, we did have one kid die while running remedial PT one Sunday afternoon.)

We had a kid die running the 1 miler at reception battalion.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
No one else pointed this out so I will: some of you guys are talking about what you did when you 18-20yr/old. As a veterinarian and a captain, plus looking at her pic I will bet she is a good bit north of 30y/old.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:13 pm to
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No one else pointed this out so I will: some of you guys are talking about what you did when you 18-20yr/old. As a veterinarian and a captain, plus looking at her pic I will bet she is a good bit north of 30y/old.




age doesn't get you a waver from doing ruck marches

ive seen 35+ guys hoof it better than 21 year olds
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10262 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:14 pm to
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I wouldn't think so. With her finish time, she averaged about a 13 minute mile pace. I know the pack is heavy, but why should she have had this much trouble?


If they were doing this at Ft. Hood then they probably went up/down a couple of famous road climbs named "Agony" and "Misery".
When I was in Basic back in 1990 we hit those SOB's on every road march we did. It is no joke with a full ruck.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
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ge doesn't get you a waver from doing ruck marches

ive seen 35+ guys hoof it better than 21 year olds

Yep. Knee replacement surgery was a badge of honor for the SR NCO's.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8274 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
When I was outprocessing Fort Hood, we had a guy die of heat stroke right after the EFMB road march. It was in September. It was probably well into the 90's at the time.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7678 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
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If they were doing this at Ft. Hood then they probably went up/down a couple of famous road climbs named "Agony" and "Misery".


At Fort Lewis we had Mount Motherfricker
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:16 pm to
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We had a kid die running the 1 miler at reception battalion.


How did that happen? Friendly fire?
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:17 pm to
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We had a kid die running the 1 miler at reception battalion.


I think this kid had a heart condition that they missed. But on top of that the "wet bulb" as in the "red". The drill on duty that Sunday said frick it and made them run anyway. I was on KP that day and remember seeing them run by while we were sitting behind the mess hall between chow times. I noticed he had fallen way back and you could tell he was struggling. The poor bastard made it to the top of the hill, made the turn at the end of the block and dropped dead right there on the street. That Drills career ended at that point. Not sure what happened to him but I'd imagine it wasn't good.,
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126625 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:18 pm to
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Yep. Knee replacement surgery was a badge of honor for the SR NCO's.



When I was all gung ho trying to become a jtac we had a 40+ Captain out there straight embarrassing people. He was an enlisted recon marine then became some kind of run of the mill officer in the AF and got bored with that.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:18 pm to
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No one else pointed this out so I will: some of you guys are talking about what you did when you 18-20yr/old. As a veterinarian and a captain, plus looking at her pic I will bet she is a good bit north of 30y/old.


Certainly 30 is likely to be the floor, but just spotting her that, I do not believe I could have done the expert field medical badge ruck march to standard at 21. Maybe, but I really doubt it. We took 4 hours to do 12 miles, so that's 15 minute miles.

Fair enough?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37565 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:18 pm to
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How did that happen? Friendly fire?

No. When you first get to basic you have to do a very easy PT test to make sure you can handle the training. I don't know the details, but I'm assuming a heat casualty.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126625 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:20 pm to
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but I'm assuming a heat casualty.


black flag is no joke

but thats what 6am pt is for
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:22 pm to
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No one else pointed this out so I will: some of you guys are talking about what you did when you 18-20yr/old. As a veterinarian and a captain, plus looking at her pic I will bet she is a good bit north of 30y/old.


Eh, rucking is one of those things that a lot of people can do better in their late 20's/early 30's than they can when they're 18 to 23, at least for men.

You're a bit naturally stronger at that point, especially where it matters (legs, core, back). You also know how to ruck if you've done it enough - how to hydrate, when to trot/when to stride, how to attack elevation, how to pace yourself, etc, etc.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:23 pm to
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If they were doing this at Ft. Hood then they probably went up/down a couple of famous road climbs named "Agony" and "Misery".


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At Fort Lewis we had Mount Motherfricker


At Ft. Knox we had Agony, Misery, & Heartbreak. Man I hated those hills.

This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126625 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:24 pm to
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You're a bit naturally stronger at that point, especially where it matters (legs, core, back). You also know how to ruck if you've done it enough - how to hydrate, when to trot/when to stride, how to attack elevation, how to pace yourself, etc, etc.




Yup especially once you learn how to turn your brain off and just walk.

I used to be so bad at it and one day booom
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37565 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:25 pm to
Anyone else done the Stairway to Heaven on Camp Casey?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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72264 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Anyone else done the Stairway to Heaven on Camp Casey?



Thankfully I never was shipped to Korea. I remember when I was going through at Ft. Knox we had a few married guys who all wanted to go to Germany after basic so they could bring their wife. So that's what they put down on their "dream sheet". I was single and put Germany down just because I wanted to see it more than I did Korea. At that time you could not bring a spouse to Korea though.

When our orders came in, every single one of the married dudes were heading to Korea while I and the other single dudes were heading to Germany. I remember one poor bastard getting divorce papers in the mail right before graduation over the fact he would be gone for a year to Korea.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:41 pm
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