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re: Feds Threating to Take Over Colorado River Watershed if Nothing is Done
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:22 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:22 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Unintended consequences, like building city in the middle of a swamp
Ain't hurting for water though.
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:22 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Go during Monsoon Season, which is starting a bit early this year.
I wasnt gonna throw this term out there but it is accurate. They do call it that but our definition is much different!
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:25 pm to CarRamrod
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can we get a list of things the Fed have taken over that actually got better?
Some endangered species?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:26 pm to PoppaD
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As good as we are at pipelining, why aren't there any fresh water pipelines from places with bunches of water (like La or the Great Lakes) to places in the West?
Very expensive.
We have not reached a point were people are willing to pay that cost. The amount of water needed are not like O&G pipeline volumes either. Large O&G pipelines are in the range of 30" up to 48" in diameter. To flow the kind of volumes you need out west via pipeline you are talking about triple 60" pipelines with hundreds of thousands of horse power needed. And you are not going to be able to get those energy requirements in remote booster stations.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:27 pm to GumboPot
I think the Great Lakes states have some compacts to fight this.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:27 pm to crazyLSUstudent
I guess the feds feel like they can do much worse than the state organizations that have been ruining the situation slowly.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:28 pm to Lakeboy7
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I wasnt gonna throw this term out there but it is accurate. They do call it that but our definition is much different!
It has just as much to do with the winds as the rains.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:30 pm to GumboPot
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And you are not going to be able to get those energy requirements in remote booster stations.
And they will become dependent on set amounts that (as mentioned) cant be guaranteed.
California is late to the game but they are desalinating water from the Pacific. But inland western states are in a world of hurt.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:31 pm to ghost2most
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Kinda like all the millions moving to the Gulf Coast and hurricane alley? Houston, NOLA, Lafayette, Lake Charles, Beaumont, Tampa, Miami, Destin, Mobile, Biloxi.
No, actually. Not at all.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:33 pm to CarRamrod
Crime
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:33 pm to Lakeboy7
California could also just build more reservoirs in the Sierra Nevadas river valleys, as they should have done 50 years ago. Instead they are just watching that snowmelt flow into SF bay and the pacific.
I’m sure there’s some endangered species of gnat that is very thankful though.
I’m sure there’s some endangered species of gnat that is very thankful though.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:35 pm to Lakeboy7
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But inland western states are in a world of hurt.
Inland western states could buy capacity in desalination plants and trade water from the Colorado. That’s just one scheme available to get extra water to those states.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:36 pm to Spasweezy
quote:swing and a miss!
Crime
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:37 pm to LegendInMyMind
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t has just as much to do with the winds as the rains.
Surprisingly in S Arizona around the mountains they do get occasional rainfall, always windy. But north of Tucson not much.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:38 pm to CarRamrod
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:39 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Sounds like they need more dam water.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:41 pm to Nathan Hail
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wonder why that's their answer to everything?
I don't know about everything, but in this case, this is exactly what the federal government is for: mitigating disputes between states.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:50 pm to Indefatigable
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If only moving 30 million people to a desert would have known and obvious consequences.
It’s not just living in an arid climate, but also the reckless use of the little bit of water they are afforded every year.
There will certainly be wetter years in the future, but this episode should serve as a kick in the arse to regulate water usage for shite it actually needs to go to.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:50 pm to CarRamrod
quote:The careers of millions of consultants of all kinds, baw.
can we get a list of things the Fed have taken over that actually got better?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:52 pm to Indefatigable
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California could also just build more reservoirs in the Sierra Nevadas river valleys, as they should have done 50 years ago. Instead they are just watching that snowmelt flow into SF bay and the pacific.
I’m sure there’s some endangered species of gnat that is very thankful though.
There are two different issues here. Water resources and electricity generation.
If the southern Colorado River goes dry because Lake Mead drops too low San Diego is in trouble from a water resources perspective.
From an electricity perspective the following are in trouble if Lake Mead drop to a point were it can no longer generate electricity:
The cities listed here use Hoover Dam electricity. I have not checked but I'm sure this is not their only source of electricity. However if Hoover Dam stops generating electricity it will put more pressure on an already taxed system in these locations.
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