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re: Feds declassify hundreds of nuclear weapons movies

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Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:21 pm to
I always thought we were trying to kill Godzilla.... now that I find out they were just "tests" my week is fricking ruined.

Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:22 pm to
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DirtyMikeandtheBoys


That burst was the same height as the ones we dropped in WWII if I recall correctly.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:23 pm to
This might be a stupid question, but how did these tests out in the middle of the pacific not cause huge tidal waves?
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

This might be a stupid question, but how did these tests out in the middle of the pacific not cause huge tidal waves?



sorry, but that part was NOT declassified
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:24 pm to
There sure was a lot of freedom come out of that one.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

This might be a stupid question, but how did these tests out in the middle of the pacific not cause huge tidal waves?
1. That's a stupid question

2. I don't know
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

This might be a stupid question, but how did these tests out in the middle of the pacific not cause huge tidal waves?


Earth's flat dumbass
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:32 pm to
There is your 'global warming'.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:35 pm to
quote:


This might be a stupid question, but how did these tests out in the middle of the pacific not cause huge tidal waves?


My guess is all the surrounding water was immediately vaporized. I.e, the wave action created would have gone inward to fill the void...not outward.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:37 pm to
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teapot


Yeah, trippy.


The airborne tests are wild looking, too.


Question for someone smarter than I. Vertical contrails like the ones below show up in a lot of this footage. Warning flares? Some weird byproduct of the blast?


ETA: Looks they they're used to measure the shock front.

LINK


This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:38 pm to
Should have went to Netflix. Could have profited.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Question for someone smarter than I. Vertical contrails like the ones below show up in a lot of this footage. Warning flares? Some weird byproduct of the blast?


Some form of lightning? Similar to that you see in clouds above volcanoes?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:42 pm to
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The best one


HOLY

shite

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:42 pm to
That's straight out of the last scene for Rogue One.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

ow did these tests out in the middle of the pacific not cause huge tidal waves?


They might be powerful, but not that powerful. The 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake for comparison:

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However, the total work done MW (and thus energy) by this quake was 4.0×1022 joules (4.0×1029 ergs),[31] the vast majority underground. This is over 360,000 times more than its ME, equivalent to 9,600 gigatons of TNT equivalent (550 million times that of Hiroshima)
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:44 pm to
its harrowing the type of shite that we can do to one another
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:44 pm to
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WTF is going on here


A thermonuclear device detonating.

When developing new hardware, they'd usually just build a tower to set the device on top of before they'd detonate it. The tower, like any tower, had guy wires to stabilize it. What you're looking at in that video is an ultra high speed (I mean ULTRA) slow-mo. The spherical front you're seeing is the actual shock wave from the blast that's visible and defines the boundary of the fireball. Now, that fireball is EXTREMELY bright because thermonuclear detonation. The shock wave is travelling outward and shining bright enough to vaporize material in front of it. So, that finger you see coming out of the fireball is the fireball's light explosively ablating the guy wire from the tower before the fireball even reaches it. Essentially, the light from the fireball is intense enough to heat the surface of the guy wire so quickly that it violently expands and is blown outward from the center because the metal can't transmit the heat to the center as fast as the fireball pumps heat into it; the outermost layer just gets hotter and hotter and essentially explodes. On the far right of the video, you can see the tower doing the same thing beneath the shot.

That whole video spans about a millisecond, give or take.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:45 pm to
Check out that link, FT. They apparently used rockets to make them to help study the film.

Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:46 pm to
Nuclear Bomb Wiki


Here's the wiki page with the basic concepts. It isn't exactly hidden knowledge that you can get in trouble for having. I'm certainly no expert, but the general idea isn't that hard to get your head around.
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4477 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:55 pm to
looks like an atom bomb zit poppage.
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