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re: FearMongering is back: La sees largest single day increase in cases in 5 months
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:17 pm to Weaver
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:17 pm to Weaver
The guy who has been the very best with realistic non political, non sky screaming models from the beginning for this, Youyang Gu, just tweeted
“Not a single country in the world has vaccinated enough people to stop the Delta variant.
Malta, the world’s most vaccinated country (~90% of adults), saw its COVID-19 cases increase from 1 a day in June to 200 yesterday.
We must all adapt & learn to live in this new normal.”
“If Malta had the same population as the US, they’d be reporting 130,000 cases, 5x higher than the current US daily average.
So the finger pointing centered around vaccinations is fairly pointless (no pun intended).
“That said, this also means that outbreaks could get worse.”
To summarize my thoughts on the Delta variant:
1) It poses a real risk to those with no immunity.
2) The virus is here to stay. There’ll be more variants. This is the new normal.
3) Regions with larger outbreaks now will see smaller outbreaks in the winter & vice versa.“
LINK
“Not a single country in the world has vaccinated enough people to stop the Delta variant.
Malta, the world’s most vaccinated country (~90% of adults), saw its COVID-19 cases increase from 1 a day in June to 200 yesterday.
We must all adapt & learn to live in this new normal.”
“If Malta had the same population as the US, they’d be reporting 130,000 cases, 5x higher than the current US daily average.
So the finger pointing centered around vaccinations is fairly pointless (no pun intended).
“That said, this also means that outbreaks could get worse.”
To summarize my thoughts on the Delta variant:
1) It poses a real risk to those with no immunity.
2) The virus is here to stay. There’ll be more variants. This is the new normal.
3) Regions with larger outbreaks now will see smaller outbreaks in the winter & vice versa.“
LINK
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 2:19 pm
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:32 pm to Fun Bunch
Fake news
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:33 pm to Fun Bunch
We are at 59.2 nationally for fully vaxxed over 18.
Of course some places are at 20 while others are at 80 percent, we will hit 60 percent of adults being fully vaxxed nationally in a few days.
Of course some places are at 20 while others are at 80 percent, we will hit 60 percent of adults being fully vaxxed nationally in a few days.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:37 pm to Fun Bunch
This is how I picture the average anti-vaxer:
But Muh ivermectin
But Muh ivermectin
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:59 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:
We are at 59.2 nationally for fully vaxxed over 18.
We are not very close to that in Louisiana.
Areas that are in the high 60s and 70s are basically not being affected at all by the latest "surge".
But LA is. Shocker.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:01 pm to bbap
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We are already at 40% and that's including the segment of the population that isn't eligible. Honestly, that's really not that bad.
Its pretty shitty, especially when you start to take into account the rate in certain areas of the North and even in Europe which at one point trailed way behind us.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:03 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Why is it such a big F’ing deal to reach 70% vaccination when so many people got the actual virus?
We can measure how many people have been vaccinated. We know that the vaccinations are effective in the vast majority of people and that the vaccination lasts in the vast majority of people for a long period of time.
We know that in areas with high vaccination rates, they are not seeing a surge. In areas where there is not, there is.
Relying on antibodies is totally unreliable.
In addition, it relies on people GETTING COVID. When people get Covid, a portion of them will go to the hospital and a smaller portion will die.
We can avoid that by...getting vaccinated instead.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:04 pm to Fun Bunch
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Its pretty shitty, especially when you start to take into account the rate in certain areas of the North and even in Europe which at one point trailed way behind us.
I still think its good. It's behind other states but i don't use that as a benchmark. Especially for something that has plenty reasons to pause about (fwiw im vaccinated but i understand people's hesistancy).
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:06 pm to Fun Bunch
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Relying on antibodies is totally unreliable.
But relying on the vaccine is?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:07 pm to Fun Bunch
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We know that in areas with high vaccination rates, they are not seeing a surge. In areas where there is not, there is.
Is this 100% true? The tweet above seems to indicate it's not.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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But relying on the vaccine is?
Its not even a question that it is more reliable in a variety of ways than antibodies.
We know how many people have had it. It can be quantified.
On top of that, people have to get covid to get the antibodies. How about we just avoid that?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:13 pm to Fun Bunch
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ts not even a question that it is more reliable in a variety of ways than antibodies.
Because you say so?
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We know how many people have had it. It can be quantified.
Show me your data on confirmed COVID reinfections compared to COVID infections in vaccinated individuals. I'd like to see it.
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On top of that, people have to get covid to get the antibodies. How about we just avoid that?
That has nothing to do with the claim you made. I'm not some anti vaxx person, I got the Pfizer.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:15 pm to Fun Bunch
East Baton Rouge is right around 50 percent of adults, I believe.
I hope we will start seeing an uptick in vaccines with the rising Delta cases, but the general public is slow to respond, to both good news and bad news.
I hope we will start seeing an uptick in vaccines with the rising Delta cases, but the general public is slow to respond, to both good news and bad news.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:15 pm to LNCHBOX
No thanks. Definitely not going down a Lunchbox rabbit hole.
You win the argument, I concede.
You win the argument, I concede.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:17 pm to Fun Bunch
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No thanks. Definitely not going down a Lunchbox rabbit hole.
You win the argument, I concede.
That's dumb.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:22 pm to tigerskin
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2) The virus is here to stay. There’ll be more variants. This is the new normal.
There are plenty of previous Corona viruses who have become “common colds” over time all without vaccines. Why would this one be so different and continue to have variants who are equally as dangerous. As variants become more and more contagious how would they not also become less deadly over time.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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On top of that, people have to get covid to get the antibodies. How about we just avoid that?
Weren’t there a large number of players on the NC State baseball team that tested positive for Covid?
And I’m also not some anti-vaxxer, team Moderna 4 life,
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:24 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:We can quantify how many people have had vaccine, and we can quantify its 95% effective
But relying on the vaccine is?
We can’t really quantify how many people have natural covid antibodies for 3 main reasons
1. Not everyone that had covid is tested
2. The tests themselves are known to produce false positives
3. With Covid, like all viruses, antibody levels and creation is dependent on the seriousness of the infection itself. Not every case is going to produce sufficient or similar antibody production
That’s a respectful answer that I think would be agreed on by everyone
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:25 pm to St Augustine
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There are plenty of previous Corona viruses who have become “common colds” over time all without vaccines. Why would this one be so different and continue to have variants who are equally as dangerous. As variants become more and more contagious how would they not also become less deadly over time.
Probably because it was made in a lab and specifically designed to be deadly and to be deadly when it mutates.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:26 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Nothing ever created by mankind can prevent the virus from entering your body and producing a positive test. Even a 100% effective lifetime vaccine can’t do that
Weren’t there a large number of players on the NC State baseball team that tested positive for Covid?
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