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re: FDA Grants Full Approval for Vaccine
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:20 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:20 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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BigPapiDoesItAgain
you should really post more FWIW
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:21 am to Salmon
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you do you
I just don’t see the point of bringing the unknown variables of how I, the individual, will react to the shot into a situation that has a 99.93% minimum chance of success. There are adverse events, however bad people want to downplay them, and however rare they are is not important to me when looking at 99.93% success rate. Personally mine should be better but I’ll operate under that # for sake of discussion.
When the traditional vaccine is on the market, and doesn’t come with blood clot warnings, I’ll heavily consider it because I have 36 years of personal experience of not dying from those vs zero experience not dying from the Pfizer type
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:22 am to Salmon
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they were 90% with original COVID
there efficacy is waning with Delta
these will probably turn into an annual thing, like the flu shot, with the way it mutates and our vaccination rates
Then it would be pointless to give a booster without reformulating the vaccines to give more protection to Delta. I thought that was one of the reasons for using mRNA vaccines.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:23 am to ShoeBang
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I just don’t see the point of bringing the unknown variables of how I, the individual, will react to the shot into a situation that has a 99.93% minimum chance of success. There are adverse events, however bad people want to downplay them, and however rare they are is not important to me when looking at 99.93% success rate. Personally mine should be better but I’ll operate under that # for sake of discussion.
statistical outliers just don't concern me
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:24 am to stout
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I always tell my employees to worry about what's within our 4 walls and I needed to take my own advice. I will still share my opinions and interesting data, though.
FTR as a business owner you should be loving the mandates. At worst...it's hurts your competition. At best it hurts them and you are able to grab a couple of their best employees at the same time.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:24 am to CatfishJohn
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I have had to get mandatory vaccines for childhood summer camps, high school, college, and multiple jobs.
You do like that vaccines are not mandatory for school, right?
If you have the correct papers filled out - they are not necessary.
A few years ago when I worked at the public library, a parent requested we ask for immunization records for children to attend story time.
now it may look like she will get what she wants - even thought must ‘school’ shots aren’t recommended until the age of 4Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:25 am to ell_13
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actually does but I don’t get your point.
Salmon has had lingering respiratory issues and has chronicled them on the H&F board since the beginning. And for people that workout and run like he does the flu doesn't do that.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:27 am to GreenRockTiger
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If you have the correct papers filled out - they are not necessary.
The same avenues would likely be offered here. They may try to not offer those avenues initially though, I do understand that is likely.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:27 am to stout
quote:I honestly have no clue what you are talking about
No. You've gone full retard even calling people out for something they clearly didn't say. It's like you lost all reading comprehension skills just so that you can get your point and response in. I told you a few weeks ago I appreciated your level head responses but you've deviated far from that recently.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:28 am to Salmon
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statistical outliers just don't concern me
agreed, especially since being hospitalized or dying are statistical outliers imo.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:29 am to ShoeBang
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especially since being hospitalized or dying are statistical outliers
right
and I'll refer to my previous post to you concerning this
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:33 am to Salmon
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and I'll refer to my previous post to you concerning this
Not judging. I don't even think you're wrong for wanting the shot. Want it? Go sick man. My parents got it. I don't think they, with their 4 degrees between the two of them, are any less intelligent or anything like that. Same with friends who've gotten it.
I just won't be getting it, and I'll consider anyone thinking it should be compulsory an enemy.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:33 am to lsu777
I think I’m pretty much back. Finally.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:37 am to lsu777
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FTR as a business owner you should be loving the mandates. At worst...it's hurts your competition. At best it hurts them and you are able to grab a couple of their best employees at the same time.
Well I have a handful of direct employees but the majority are 1099 subs. My direct employees all work from home and have for years. It doesn't effect me either way really. What does hurt a large portion my business is the eviction moratorium. Ready for that BS to end
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:37 am to tigersports4
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One more for you, if the success rate is 90+% on these shots, why the need for a booster so early on in the use and will this be a never ending booster shot cycle?
Google how many jabs you get for polio, mumps, measles, etc. It’s common to get several shots.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:38 am to lsupride87
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honestly have no clue what you are talking about
Yea I know you don't. That's part of it.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:39 am to tigersports4
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3/4/5 years from now. What type of conditions could arise from these types of tech. Organ malfunctions, cell breakdown, reproductive issues. again not a conspiracy nut or anything like that, we just do not have the data for a lot of people to just trust and jump out and do it.
The thing is things happen with vaccines quickly they don't precipitate issues 3 months in much less years, it is part and parcel of the way they work and how quickly they clear the body.
You talk about trust even if you believe you can't trust anyone's words look at actions. The overwhelming majority of MDs got one of the vaccines basically as soon as they could and recommended their loved ones do the same thing. That is a difficult hill to surmount in my opinion.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:43 am to Obtuse1
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You talk about trust even if you believe you can't trust anyone's words look at actions. The overwhelming majority of MDs got one of the vaccines basically as soon as they could and recommended their loved ones do the same thing. That is a difficult hill to surmount in my opinion.
Yes
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:47 am to tigersports4
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Tell that to the people in the first polio vax studies, they to this day still find markers in those bloodline that caused a wide range of cancers.
You realize the Cutter incident is just a data point in support of things happening fast with vaccines, The issues showed up in under a week.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:47 am to lsu777
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At worst...it's hurts your competition
At least you're honest about what it's doing to small businesses. The fact you think it's ok is worrisome.
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