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re: FBI: Bundys Arrested, One Militant Dead
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:46 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:46 pm to JuiceTerry
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You're right. It wasn't an accident. They shot him on purpose when he disobeyed orders and charged at police.
I heard he had his hands up and was shot in the face. A lot different than beating the shite out of a cop.
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:53 pm to Rhino5
Members of his own group that were there and witnessed everything said what I told you. I don't know where you got anything about him beating up a cop. They beat him up with their bullets.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:53 pm to Rhino5
quote:Eyewitnesses say otherwise. One of the wives of the arrested men claimed that he called her from the police car and said that the guy had his hands up. I doubt it's true.
I heard he had his hands up and was shot in the face. A lot different than beating the shite out of a cop.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:08 pm to JuiceTerry
You said he "charged at police", but the ABC news article I linked on the previous page said the following:
I just don't see the rush to dismantle/remove these guys unless the government is truly nervous about something. But they're in the middle of no where, no hostages, not stopping traffic or commerce.... I just don't see the need to rush this situation right now.
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"LaVoy's hands were in the air and he was shot in the face. Ammon Bundy reported there were six witnesses," according to a Facebook message posted by the group LaVoy Finicum's Stand For Freedom.
I just don't see the rush to dismantle/remove these guys unless the government is truly nervous about something. But they're in the middle of no where, no hostages, not stopping traffic or commerce.... I just don't see the need to rush this situation right now.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:11 pm to Rhino5
Has the FBI begun playing Achy Breaky Heart on repeat yet?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:17 pm to ThatMakesSense
The main fishy thing right now is the one "militant" who posted a video claiming that the guy rushed police before he was shot. Something just seemed off and "too neat" about his story, and people who followed this closely are claiming they didn't even know about this guy before the video.
All that said, I still don't know why, if the Feds were out to end this violently, only the one guy got killed.
There's audio of a young girl who claims she was in the car, and she's talking about a hail of bullets, and her description makes it sound like it was an attempted murder of everyone in the vehicles.
But if that's so, why only one dead? And not the main guy, at that?
All that said, I still don't know why, if the Feds were out to end this violently, only the one guy got killed.
There's audio of a young girl who claims she was in the car, and she's talking about a hail of bullets, and her description makes it sound like it was an attempted murder of everyone in the vehicles.
But if that's so, why only one dead? And not the main guy, at that?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:17 pm to Rhino5
quote:Citing an ABC News article is pointless when the article attributes the quote to a Facebook group managed by LaVoy Finicum's supporters.
You said he "charged at police", but the ABC news article I linked on the previous page said the following:
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:19 pm to uway
quote:The people who support these loons are conspiracy theory types. Of course they think it was a government conspiracy to suppress the protesters. Of course they're going to treat this guy like a martyr.
The main fishy thing right now is the one "militant" who posted a video claiming that the guy rushed police before he was shot. Something just seemed off and "too neat" about his story, and people who followed this closely are claiming they didn't even know about this guy before the video.
All that said, I still don't know why, if the Feds were out to end this violently, only the one guy got killed.
There's audio of a young girl who claims she was in the car, and she's talking about a hail of bullets, and her description makes it sound like it was an attempted murder of everyone in the vehicles.
But if that's so, why only one dead? And not the main guy, at that?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:22 pm to Hog on the Hill
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Citing an ABC News article is pointless when the article attributes the quote to a Facebook group managed by LaVoy Finicum's supporters.
Sure, I understand that but that's what one of the Big 3 news organizations used in their story.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:23 pm to uway
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All that said, I still don't know why, if the Feds were out to end this violently, only the one guy got killed.
You think King Bam Bam wants to end his Presidency with a new-age David Koresh incident?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:28 pm to Hog on the Hill
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The people who support these loons are conspiracy theory types. Of course they think it was a government conspiracy to suppress the protesters. Of course they're going to treat this guy like a martyr.
Supporting and questioning the governments hasty actions are two different things. There's literally no rush to solve this shite. David Koresh was raping young kids and holding hostages, and even many say that was hasty actions by the government. This is rednecks in the sticks.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:30 pm to Rhino5
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Apparently the guy that was killed was the spokesman for the group, probably not an accident that they killed the "voice" of the group. He had 11 kids:
He also had foster kids taken away from them because he was using them as free child labor on his farm.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:34 pm to Rhino5
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Sure, I understand that but that's what one of the Big 3 news organizations used in their story.
I posted an article in this thread that actually has video from people that were there and they said he tried to run and hit a snowbank then turned around and charged the feds so they took him out. You can find it in this thread if you wish.
Of course the Bundys are going to say otherwise and make him a martyr.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:46 pm to stout
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using them as free child labor on his farm.
Id like to read more about this. I work the hell out of my kids and don't consider them free labor. Instead id like to think they are learning responsibility and good work ethic
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:48 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I am sure the rules are way more strict on how far you can push your own kids vs foster kids. Also, as was previously mentioned, not all of his 11 kids paint him as a good father either.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:50 pm to stout
Again, not arguing it just curious what the accusations were
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:04 pm to ThatMakesSense
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You think King Bam Bam wants to end his Presidency with a new-age David Koresh incident?
I really don't know. I don't think it will ever go down like that again. They won't be so brazen, and it will appear justified.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:31 pm to uway
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and it will appear justified.
Like the federal govt protecting a scared, and normally quiet Oregon town from big, bad, scary militia men
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:40 pm to stout
quote:.
posted an article in this thread that actually has video from people that were there and they said he tried to run and hit a snowbank then turned around and charged the feds so they took him out. You can find it in this thread if you wish.
Of course the Bundys are going to say otherwise and make him a martyr.
People are going to see it through whatever filters they choose, truth be damned ... If it's ever known.
I've got sympathies with people protesting federal land management in the West. I'm not convinced the Bundies should be the figureheads
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:47 pm to stout
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posted an article in this thread that actually has video from people that were there and they said he tried to run and hit a snowbank then turned around and charged the feds so they took him out
They weren't eye-witnesses to the shooting. Or were they?
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