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re: Father of Child Murdered at Sandy Hook Faces Death Threats

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Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 2:58 pm to
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There are plenty of countries that demand you believe what they tell you. Why do you choose to live here?




See, right here. This is your problem. You think there's no physical evidence that 28 people died as a result of Sandy Hook? Do you really think all those videos of people scurrying about during the Sandy Hook incident, the emergency vehicles etc. were highly questionable? You are a loon, a lunatic.



Here are the faces...unless you think those are made up too....





Picture of a family who lost their child. You're bastard if you call this fake, no other way to put it. It makes me so angry to even hear people act like they're "on to something" by questioning it. No, you're just insane.


Knock yourself out with these folks
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:00 pm to
I know what you are shown is not as it seems.

Instead of being dismissive, just go get a cushy federal job in the beltway with a TS, take a look around the SIPRNET and draw your own conclusions...

Or you can bitch about loons on the web and keep swallowing the Gerber one bite at a time.

Hell it was a conspiracy theory just last week that the US/bankers ousted Qaddafi because he was moving to a gold standard...
Now that Hillary emails are public record confirming it, you still believe the press and the government's take..."a mystical Arab uprising spawned from a guy burning himself caused the overthrow of no less than 4 Middle Eastern powers."

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:00 pm to
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Those who question are not questioning because there are despicable people in this world.
This is the very bases of their questioning.

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The CT's question any and everything because they simply look at our government as all encompassingly devious, vile, corrupt, dishonest,
Are you suggesting that it isn't?

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Not saying that shades of those elements don't exist in government.
Neither is anyone else.

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But not all encompassingly.
There's the irony. Anytime anyone questions anything, the geniuses on this board surmise that to mean that "the gubmint did it."


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And certainly not to the point of staging a Sandy Hook or planting bombs in the twin towers or any stupid shite such as that.
These kinds of plans are mapped out all the time.

Someone has already presented Operation Northwoods as an example. This is common knowledge to most people outside of TD.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:02 pm to
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I don't believe anyone is saying that Sandy Hook didn't happen





That's kind of what started this thread didn't it?
And yes, they exist and have posted on here plenty of times.
Link?

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I don't understand why you show up to always defend loons, but have nothing of substance to add.
Irony is entertaining.

Thanks for that.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:05 pm to
I watched my parents go through the unexpected death of my sister and how it changed them for good. They have never been the same since. Not the same people I knew growing up. Parents never really "get over" burying their child.

Now, add to it the way their children died. And add to it the fact that these motherfrickers are trying to fit some bullshite conspiracy narrative to it, actually questioning that it even happened and demanding "the truth" from the already messed up parents. It infuriates me to no end!

In a lot of ways, they are just as mentally unstable as the little bastard that did it.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:07 pm to
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I don't believe anyone is saying that Sandy Hook didn't happen.



Yes, thats exactly what many people are saying. They say there were no children murdered at Sandy Hook, and it was all orchestrated by the government.
Thanks for illustrating my point.

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Why is wanting to know the truth so disturbing to you?



I know the truth. The truth is that a mentally unstable kid took it upon himself to enter into a school of young children and teachers, and open gun fire upon them murdering 28 people.
You know this how?

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There's nothing to question unless you choose to not believe really significant facts, and to not believe in those really significant facts, you'd have to be a lunatic.
Where are you getting your "facts" and how do you know they are facts?

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Sorry, but if you question this, I feel sorry for you.
Oh heavens no, I would never question an anonymous poster on a random message board.

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its just sad.
The threats and anger coming from some of the posters in this thread truly is sad.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56720 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:07 pm to
Do you dolts have any morsel of evidence or do you just repeatedly play the "don't be naive!!!" card while answering questions with questions and citing instances that are completely unrelated?

It seems like you are the ones who truly struggle to cope with the randomness and harshness of the world. And that guns can be bad.
Posted by notiger1997
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Member since May 2009
61810 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:09 pm to
Sheeple!!!!
LOL
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:12 pm to
LINK



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Why aren’t the adults sadder? “They aren’t behaving the way human beings would act,” as conspiracy theorist Jay Weidner told fellow conspiracy theorist Jeff Rense on his radio show. Theorists have zeroed in on Robbie Parker, who they say wasn’t grieving hard enough for his slain 6-year-old daughter, Emilie. In one widely circulated clip, Parker laughs before stepping up to the microphone, and apparently someone says “read from the card” (as in cue card) before Parker breathes heavily in anticipation of beginning a press conference. “This is what actors do to get into character,” one popular YouTube video states. Rense and Weidner also take issue with the mourning of the school nurse, the family of slain teacher Victoria Soto, and others. “ALL ACTORS??? NO TEARS,” wonders the author of SandyHookHoax.com on a page featuring videos with numerous interviews from the shooting.

Answer: People mourn in many different ways, sometimes all at once. As a recent Scientific American article on gref noted, “oscillation between sadness and mirth repeated itself in study after study … Time and again, a grief-stricken person’s expression would change from dejection to laughter and back.” George Bonanno, a psychologist at Columbia University who studies grief, even developed a way to determine if this mourner’s laughter was genuine or merely a facade to hide grief — he determined that they “exhibited the real thing.” Scientists think this is part of our internal resilience mechanisms kicking in, because constant grief is simply too much for a person to handle.



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What about Emilie? One of the most common myths circulated on message boards and in YouTube videos is that Emilie Parker is actually alive. The “proof” is a photo purportedly showing her with President Obama when he visited the school after the shooting. Conspiracists know it’s Emilie because she’s wearing the same dress as the one Emilie wore in a family portrait taken before the shooting (an alternative theory is that the girl in the photo with Obama is her “double”). Other websites take issue with the family portrait, alleging it was Photoshopped for some reason, pointing to the fact that the Emilie is making a “devil’s horns” sign with her hands and “making the devil’s horn hand sign isn’t easy. Try it yourself. Imagine getting a 3- and 4-year-old do it.”

The girl on Obama’s lap is Emilie’s little sister. It’s amazing that we have to say this, but sometimes younger siblings wear clothes passed down to them from older siblings, and sometimes siblings look alike because they are siblings. And there’s no evidence or even motive given for why the portrait would be Photoshopped. Making a “devil’s horn” gesture is actually incredibly easy. Try it yourself.



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Why do they all look the same? Numerous websites juxtapose pictures of people from Newtown against pictures of similar looking people from Aurora, Colo., and assert they are the same actors.

Answer: Not all women with brown hair are the same person.



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But what about the rifle? Alleged shooter Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster AR-15 assault rifle as his primary weapon, but conspiracist have seized on footage of police removing a long gun from the trunk of Lanza’s car. “This reveals the ‘Big Lie’ of the mainstream media … the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle was left in Lanza’s car,” conspiracy website NaturalNews states in a story picked up by Alex Jones’ InfoWars this week.

Answer: Actually, the gun shown being removed from Lanza’s car was a shotgun he never used. Lanza brought three guns inside the school — the AR-15 and two handguns — all of which were found inside the school.



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What about the car? Early on, theorists latched on to the notion that the black Honda Accord driven by Lanza was not actually owned by his mother, as police say, but by a man named Chris Rodia, who was mentioned on a police scanner at the time of the shooting. One theory is that Rodia may have been an additional shooter. An even more advanced theory is that Rodia may have been taking advantage of mentally ill people like Lanza and using drugs to make them do his bidding.

Answer: This one was debunked by the theorists themselves just a few days after the shooting. Blogger Joe Quinn obtained the police audio, which definitively debunking the myth. (Rodia appeared on the scanner because he was getting pulled over in a traffic stop miles away, but his license plate doesn’t match Lanza’s car). “This was a huge blow, because lots of people were making big leaps on this … but we now have to look elsewhere,” another amateur investigator said on YouTube.



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finding co-conspirators, which in this case means multiple shooters. Theorists have seized on helicopter footage of a man getting chased by police through the woods behind the school as evidence there was more than one shooter. Who is this man?

Answer: It was Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old who attends the school. He was on his way to the school to make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard gunfire and smelled sulfur, so he ran.





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But there was another man in the woods (maybe): Eyewitnesses saw a second man in the woods wearing camouflage pants and a dark jacket, and said that he may have been armed. Must be a second shooter.

Answer: Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, “an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town” who heard the gunfire.




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Then why did some eyewitnesses report multiple shooters? Theorizers have parsed conflicting media reports and interviews with eyewitnesses saying they saw multiple shooters. How could they be wrong?

Answer: In the stress and confusion of a situation like a mass shooting, misreporting is not just common, but the rule. And there’s a reason eyewitnesses are viewed so skeptically in criminal court cases: They often get things wrong. The Supreme Court has called eyewitness testimony “notoriously unreliable” while the Innocence Project says “eyewitness misidentification is the single greatest cause of wrongful convictions.” Yet theorists would have you believe that a small handful of media interviews with people on the scene trumps all the other interviews with people there and police and media reports.



LINK

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:16 pm to
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You're bastard if you call this fake, no other way to put it. It makes me so angry to even hear people act like they're "on to something" by questioning it. No, you're just insane.
You sound mentally unstable.

Showing me pictures of children and parents trying very hard to work up a teer (there are none BTW) doesn't prove that Sandy Hook happened the way they want us to believe it did.

Sorry if that angers you. You seem easily touched off.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:17 pm to
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It seems like you are the ones who truly struggle to cope with the randomness and harshness of the world.


Exactly my point. The only way to cope with it, is to make up some conspiracy theory. Quick, somebody tell John Grisham or Dan Brown to write a book about it. Let's make a movie. In the end we can have our hero uncovering the truth from video because he hacked into the network.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:19 pm to
LINK


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"The classic conspiracy theorist sees the hidden hand in everything. Nothing is as it seems," he added. "There's something bigger that's going on. They dont know where it is, but they are willing to tantalize people and throw out any number of suggestions, which are oftentimes contradictory."


Which is exactly what you are.


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In addition, truthers have claimed that the victims' parents didn't express the proper level of grief. However, by cherry-picking certain portions of certain news clips, evidence to such claims becomes "beneath worthless and is actually misleading," Robert Blaskiewicz, writer for the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and co-editor of the blog Skeptical Humanities, said in an email to HuffPost. "Doing that means ignoring (or simply rejecting) vast quantities of evidence that doesn't support their conclusion."



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Compiled together, this "evidence" not only addresses a theory, but also a much larger issue: Most conspiracy theorists have a very specific agenda, the experts said.


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"What I think we are looking at in the video is an attempt to find evidence to fit a preexisting narrative, that the government is or is quickly becoming a tyranny and that the only thing stopping the government from terrorizing the nation is that the populace is armed," Blaskiewicz said.

Blaskiewicz added that such a diseased investigative process is almost always guaranteed to fail.

"The only possible answer at the end of that process of investigation is some sort of omnipotent puppet master who controls everything. In this case, it's the government, but it's often Jews, the New World Order, the other political party, the Illuminati, Masons, or even inter-dimensional mind-controlling reptilian space aliens who impersonate political leaders."
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:20 pm to
Wait, you don't believe Sandy Hook was a hoax. So what are you still doing in this thread?
Go read the link in the OP.
What's your point here?
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:20 pm to
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Knock yourself out with these folks
That thread is nuts, I only read the 1 page you linked to.

Someone posted 2 Youtube videos, the 1st was a family talking to a reporter. Their evidence was a 2nd video showing the father in the same shirt and all of a sudden he's a director/supervisor outside the school. They said that because...he had a bluetooth headset on.

Everyone quoted it like, "He didn't even bother to change his shirt!!!!"
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:22 pm to
Stop pretending you are are just a skeptic seeking truth. Pretending you don't have a belief, but just questions. Answers to your questions don't produce resolution they just begat more questions because you don't want answers. You need your CTs. Without them, the world doesn't make as much sense and you can't cope.

The fact that all you do is try to posture and deflect is ridiculous. Also, Alanis Morissette understands irony better than you do.
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:23 pm to
There are some really straight-up dumb people on this board.


I guess this place really does reflect society as a whole.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:25 pm to
He's here to troll back and forth with us while riding the fence line. How convenient. He doesn't have the balls to identify with either side.

Hey, he's just trying to seek the truth!
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:26 pm to
You provide generalizations that back what you've been told to believe as truth. Isn't this exactly what you're accusing the "CT's" of?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:26 pm to
I've read up on a lot of these sandy hook conspiracies, It's truly incredible some of the shite people choose to believe. There's pictures that are posted that don't look anything like any of the children but so many people actually believe it's them. All you have to do is say I saw one of those kids hanging out by my house and all the CT's will believe you.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:28 pm to
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Wait, you don't believe Sandy Hook was a hoax. So what are you still doing in this thread?
Same thing you're doing, voicing my opinion. I'm told that's how message boards work.
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