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re: Father (Not Guilty) of killing drunk driver who killed his sons.Update

Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:16 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31326 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:16 am to
quote:

By law


By law you can go to jail longer for selling a harmless substance than you can for sexually abusing or killing someone. So obviously some laws are a joke.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:17 am to
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By law you can go to jail longer for selling a harmless substance than you can for sexually abusing or killing someone. So obviously some laws are a joke.



You're too stupid to talk to. Please have the last word so we can move on.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:17 am to
There's a part of me that says this is perfectly ok. On the other hand, I think over the past dozen centuries or so, we've become civilized to the extent where this constitutes a step towards anarchy - therefore not acceptable.

I think we all carry a reptilian response mechanism deep inside us that we suppress everyday. I think at times it's useful, but not this time.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:19 am to
I'm just catching the tail end of this argument, but if your posts are similar to this
quote:

lol, protecting murderers and criminals is "civilized" now? Got it, thanks.
then I'm going to assume you're not doing too well.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31326 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:21 am to
quote:

You're too stupid to talk to


So are you saying what I posted is untrue or do you disagree with it?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:23 am to
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So are you saying what I posted is untrue or do you disagree with it?



It's misleading for starters. First offense dealing isn't going to get you 20 years on it's own.

And I disagree with your whole premise in this thread. What the dad did should not be tolerated in a civilized society.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31326 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:27 am to
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And I disagree with your whole premise in this thread. What the dad did should not be tolerated in a civilized society


That's fine if that's how you feel. But killing someone kids due to negligence, selfishness, carelessness, stupidity etc... should be even less tolerated.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:33 am to
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lol, protecting murderers and criminals is "civilized" now? Got it, thanks.


We have a system in place where everyone is entitled to due process to determine guilt. At the time the driver was murdered there was purportedly no way to know that he was in fact guilty (i.e. there was no way to know that he was intoxicated).

The father lashed out at someone who really may not have been to blame for the accident at all. This is why we have a justice system in place. For all it's flaws it is better than going around and punishing who we think might probably be guilty. Or just shifting responsibility for our own actions onto other people which is what it seems like this father might have done.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:44 am to
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should be even less tolerated.

That's for courts to decide. At this point, we don't know, and we'll never know, what actually happened to cause the collision.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67648 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:49 am to
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That's for courts to decide. At this point, we don't know, and we'll never know, what actually happened to cause the collision.


Yeh we don't even know if the father killed him b/c he thought he was drunk. Based on some replies in this thread it wouldn't matter if he was sober.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56505 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:50 am to
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But killing someone kids due to negligence,
by having them push a car down a country road at night? That's pretty fricking negligent.

Did you miss the part where the police said the father couldn't have been able to tell that the driver was intoxicated?
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Randy Savage


I don't know why anyone is wasting thoughts with this guy.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5970 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:11 pm to
I'm not saying what this dad did is right, but I could see myself doing the same thing. Especially if both my kids were killed.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6563 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:16 pm to
Our prisons are already too crowded. I support the dad.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:19 pm to
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CootKillaI'm not saying what this dad did is right, but I could see myself doing the same thing. Especially if both my kids were killed.







I have an eleven year old girl and a twelve year old boy and I would never put them in that situation. The father was stupid. He should have just turned the pistol on himself if he wanted to punish someone.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Our prisons are already too crowded. I support the dad.



The dad can have the spot of the guy he killed. Everyone wins.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Our prisons are already too crowded. I support the dad.


I'll ask again since none of you dummies will answer... What is the driver was sober?

And the father should be put in prison for child endangerment.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:17 pm to
Bump for FLObserver.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
80825 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:14 pm to
Bump - was just found not guilty as per The Houston Chronicle.

quote:

ANGLETON, Texas - The jury returned a verdict Wednesday in the trial of a father accused of fatally shooting a drunken driver who killed his two young sons in a crash. David Barajas was found not guilty.

Both sides rested their cases Tuesday in a state district court in Angleton, with the defense calling just three witnesses. Barajas is accused of fatally shooting Jose Banda in December 2012 near Alvin, minutes after Banda hit a truck Barajas and his two sons were pushing after it ran out of gas. Twelve-year-old David Jr. and 11-year-old Caleb were killed.


Not guilty
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:17 pm to
LINK

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the defense said the evidence says something totally different; that Barajas never had time to run home, grab a gun, kill Banda, run back home and change his clothes. He had no gun residue on him. He was just trying to save his kids.

The defense says there is, "No evidence, circumstantial or direct evidence, that links David Barajas to the killing."


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