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re: Father (Not Guilty) of killing drunk driver who killed his sons.Update

Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:58 am to
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Most can't seem to see that the father of the children bears the majority of the responsibility for the accident.



I'm about as overly protective of my kids as possible. And there is no way in hell I'd allow my kids within 100' of a highway at anytime, be it day or night. The dad in this situation does bear the responsibility of of allowing his kids to be in a dangerous situation. But to say the dad bears the "majority" of the responsibility is a stretch considering the driver willingly got behind the wheel and drove on that highway while drunk.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:03 am to
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But to say the dad bears the "majority" of the responsibility is a stretch considering the driver willingly got behind the wheel and drove on that highway while drunk.


What is the driver was sober? It is possible that the alcohol had nothing to do with it.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:04 am to
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Yes, I think I would deserve it. I'm not saying that a person in that scenario should die. I'm saying that it's deserved in the way that if you get the answers wrong on a test, you deserve a bad grade. "But I forgot to study! I forgot the test was today! I'm normally a really good student." And all of that may be true, but in one specific moment you may specifically deserve a bad grade. That's not the same thing as saying that I'm against leniency or retests etc. See what I'm saying? In a cosmic retributive sense I think you probably deserve to die if your recklessness kills an innocent person.



In that particular situation, your response seems wholly absurd to me. That situation describes a simple mistake that leads to an accident. It is the type of thing that is in a large way out of the control of the person that got into the accident.

It's impossible to predict this small mistake of changing the radio station for example leading to the death of a child. Every person everyday makes decisions like this that just by chance don't lead to anyone's death, but they could. Small mistakes that could lead to big consequences could happen to anyone. Your standards are far too severe.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:05 am to
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It is possible that the alcohol had nothing to do with it.



No one will ever know the answer to that because the only witness was murdered.

That won't stop people from saying that alcohol had something to do with it anyway.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:05 am to
The fact that you can't say for sure that you would been able to avoid that accident under those conditions renders that irrelevant
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
53047 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:10 am to
Any who says he shouldn't be convicted is a dumbass
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:11 am to
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Any who says he shouldn't be convicted is a dumbass
Great sentence.

If they can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in court, convict him. If not, let him walk.

Taking a stand and calling the other side dumbasses at this stage of the game is idiotic.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1327 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:28 am to
good luck getting me to convict if I were on the jury.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16958 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:36 am to
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good luck getting me to convict if I were on the jury.


So you would defy the jury orders to judge guilt based on the law rather than your own sentiments? Hopefully they'd exclude you in jury selection then.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99642 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:37 am to
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So you would defy the jury orders to judge guilt based on the law rather than your own sentiments?
Of course he does. But I also guarantee you he throws his Natty Ice at the TV when that OBAMA man makes up his own laws against the constitution!!!!
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:49 am to
If I were on the jury, I might have to convict just on the offered defense expressed through his learned legal counsel:

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But to suggest Mr. Barajas has anything to do with it is a far stretch of the imagination."


Come on man. That's no defense.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31326 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:58 am to
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Breaking the speed limit is dangerous. If you get in a wreck going 2 miles over the limit, it is also an accident.

Do you see how dumb your logic is here?


Equating drunk driving and going 2 miles over a arbitrary speed limit? And someone else is the one with bad logic?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:00 am to
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Equating drunk driving and going 2 miles over a arbitrary speed limit? And someone else is the one with bad logic?


Reading comprehension is your friend.

ETA: And 0.08 BAC is equally arbitrary as speed limit. Maybe even more so.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:01 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31326 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:04 am to
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Christ you are bat shite crazy


This thread is depressing, just like the one with the old man who shot one of the people who broke into his house and beat and robbed him.

When did we become such cowards that the "rights" of murderers and violent criminals supercede those of innocent victims?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:04 am to
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When did we become such cowards that the "rights" of murderers and violent criminals supercede those of innocent victims?


When we decided to live in a civilized society.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99642 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:11 am to
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When did we become such cowards that the "rights" of murderers and violent criminals supercede those of innocent victims?
Welcome to any civilized society Randy. There is a court of law for a reason. You can go live among a tribe in the Congo if you would like
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31326 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:11 am to
lol, protecting murderers and criminals is "civilized" now? Got it, thanks.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85142 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:12 am to
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lol, protecting murderers and criminals is "civilized" now? Got it, thanks.


By law, the guy in the OP is now a murderer and a criminal. So shall we just kill him off as well?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56505 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:13 am to
Let's get this straight

-Dad has his sons pushing broken down truck down dark, narrow road.
-Truck gets hit head on.
-Dad gets gun from his house, kills "drunk driver" and hides the evidence.
-Police determine there was no way to tell the "drunk driver" was impaired at the time.
-The OT wants dad to walk free?

The POS deserves a murder charge.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:14 am to
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lol, protecting murderers and criminals is "civilized" now? Got it, thanks.
Yes. Being a violent criminal doesn't deprive you of your rights.
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