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re: Fatal Helicopter Crash in Iowa

Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:47 am to
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2254 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:47 am to
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Maintaining them isnt exactly cheap


You have no idea.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:47 am to
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Based on this Facebook post, this looks to be the precious family gone too soon.


Well damn. I know her mom and family. They are from Ragley
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:55 am to
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Weather conditions in BR went great yesterday evening…. I hope they weren’t operating in questionable weather



They lived in Indian Village around Kinder. Pat's is a 30-minute car ride from Kinder. It was not the best decision to take a heli for what would have been a 30-minute drive in the weather yesterday. It was overcast, and windy with some rain here and there.

I don't understand why people who make some money suddenly want to become part-time pilots and then make decisions like this. Their desire to fly outweighs their logical decision-making.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9114 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:58 am to
Guy is a fool flying his family to supper at night in a helicopter.

Family

Helicopter

Nighttime.

To much inherent risk to make it worth it.

This was a “ looksatme” for him.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49073 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:32 am to
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They lived in Indian Village around Kinder. Pat's is a 30-minute car ride from Kinder. It was not the best decision to take a heli for what would have been a 30-minute drive in the weather yesterday. It was overcast, and windy with some rain here and there.


That doesn't make any sense to me. Did they go to Pat's IN Henderson or in Lake Charles?

I wonder what caused the crash.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49073 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:03 am to
I read that the wife was an only child and it took her years to have the baby. Her poor parents. They were having a lovely life with that little family and now they have no family.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23437 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:11 am to
I was downvoted giving initials, so I guess I can get some more for saying I was told he was not licensed and without auto pilot

Student that couldn’t have passengers
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49073 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:23 am to
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I was downvoted giving initials, so I guess I can get some more for saying I was told he was not licensed and without auto pilot

Student that couldn’t have passengers


Someone just posted the below on his Facebook page. I don't know what a "single certification" entails, but I would assume it's some sort of license and allows for passengers. Maybe a pilot here can tell us.

quote:

You loved that helicopter. The ride I took with you the day you got your single certification made ME love helicopters.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171659 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:30 am to
Second Louisiana father to kill his family because he bit off more than he could chew in an aircraft. I feel bad for the wife and daughter and her family.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6444 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:30 am to
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don't know what a "single certification" entails, but I would assume it's some sort of license and allows for passengers. Maybe a pilot here can tell us.


I don’t know much about helicopter licenses, but if it is anything like fixed wing aircraft it could be single engine license, as in you could only operate helicopters with one engine, which the R-44 is.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:39 am to
Pats of Henderson in LC the crash site is a straight shot from Chennault to where they live. They crashed within a couple miles of their house.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49073 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:45 am to
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Pats of Henderson in LC the crash site is a straight shot from Chennault to where they live. They crashed within a couple miles of their house.


I just don't get living in Kinder and flying to LC for dinner.

ETA: I don't want to come off like I'm speaking ill of the dead. He owned a car dealership from what I gather, so I'm sure he had plenty of solid transportation in vehicles. By the time you get the helicopter, take off, land and get to the restaurant, you probably could have arrived sooner in a car.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4488 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:45 am to
Maybe not have seen a helicopter parked on the front lawn at lunchtime (interstate and restaurant) before.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25030 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:47 am to
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Second Louisiana father to kill his family because he bit off more than he could chew in an aircraft. I feel bad for the wife and daughter and her family.


I just wrote the NTSB and told them they don't need to investigate the crash. Boat has concluded it was pilot error rather than mechanical failure or some other event.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:48 am to
Yeah I’m with ya on that. Like someone said visibility was not the best. Low clouds just not favorable conditions especially someone that’s inexperienced. 30 minute drive, just tragic.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23437 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:49 am to
An instructor told a pilot I know that his application wasn’t approved

Would be a reckless thing to say if not true

I trust the pilot’s info
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171659 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:52 am to
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I just wrote the NTSB and told them they don't need to investigate the crash. Boat has concluded it was pilot error rather than mechanical failure or some other event.

It’s extremely likely it was a human caused crash. On the off chance it was mechanical he still killed his family in an aircraft.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:54 am to
Looking at FB he took people for rides during the capital one tower explosion. I couldn’t imagine getting in a helicopter with someone that’s not certified.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49073 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:04 pm to
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An instructor told a pilot I know that his application wasn’t approved

Would be a reckless thing to say if not true

I trust the pilot’s info


Yes, it would be a reckless thing to say if not true. He sure was flying other folks based on his Facebook pictures. Maybe he just told the person who posted on his FB page that he was certified, but I'm still unclear as to what all that entails or allows. Maybe your friend can tell you.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6444 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:13 pm to
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By the time you get the helicopter, take off, land and get to the restaurant, you probably could have arrived sooner in a car.


The flight prep/walk around would take longer than the drive.
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