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re: Farmer still uses trucks and equipment from the 70s to farm

Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:42 pm to
Easier to work on.
Fewer emissions bullshite with Diesel engines.
Cheaper to keep running if spare parts are around.
Don’t need a special contract with the manufacturer to plug into ECM….because there isn’t an ECM.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30529 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:46 pm to
A buddy tried to put a CB radio in a new John Deere combine several years ago. When you would cue the mic, the auger would come out.

The dealership asked that they be allowed to install radios after that.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90556 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:46 pm to
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4020


It takes a true artist to start one with left foot holding the Murphy switch, right foot on the clutch, one finger pressing the button and one hand twisting the steering wheel back and forth to make it turn over faster
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9290 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:47 pm to
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Easier to work on.
Fewer emissions bullshite with Diesel engines.
Cheaper to keep running if spare parts are around.
Don’t need a special contract with the manufacturer to plug into ECM….because there isn’t an ECM.



You nailed everything I was thinking. I have already had to change some of the rubber fuel lines on a 5 year old tractor. Have changed a sensor a couple times seems like there is usually a light or alarm going on for some bs sensor that doesn't need to be on there.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:50 pm to
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You must be short little fellow if you couldn't wade out to it in a catfish pond


I’m 6’6

I swam because the oxygen was low and 3 inch long catfish were crowded around it. If you Wade you get a bunch off fins stuck in your foot
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

A buddy tried to put a CB radio in a new John Deer combine several years ago. When you would cue the mic, the auger would come out.

The dealership asked that they be allowed to install radios after that.


Deere is getting a lot of heat for right to repair issues.

Not so much on their small/mid sized tractors but on their higher end equipment. They are locking down the ECM and you have to go through them to repair a lot of it.

Keep in mind that larger operations usually have their own equipment sheds and mechanics to handle most things on their own.
Posted by Spoonbilla
Member since Aug 2022
778 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:51 pm to
We had one of these, and it was awesome-



We also had one of these and it was terrible-

Posted by Jesco
Houston
Member since May 2022
161 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:52 pm to
Family back in Saskatchewan still using the mid 80’s JD 4440. Cousin rebuilt the engine himself over winter a couple winters back. Still using the Massey Harris utility tractor that was old when we were kids. Farm 5 sections with no GPS, not a single computer on any of the equipment.
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9290 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Deere is getting a lot of heat for right to repair issues.


Needed a clutch adjusted on a JD6150 and when the mechanic showed up to adjust it he got out his computer instead of a wrench .
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51540 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:58 pm to
Moral of the story: take care of your tools and they'll take care of you.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36509 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:07 pm to
I can only imagine the absolute bliss of never having any kind of regen issues.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36509 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:11 pm to
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but it runs a hell of a lot better than the '22 Kubota we have down there.


And I've had a Volvo tech tell me straight up that Kubota is supposed to be the most reliable as far as modern diesels.

ETA: I should specify that I deal with front end loaders in my world, not tractors.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted by FlagLake
"Da Ship"
Member since Feb 2006
2337 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Brings back good memories for me. I spent many hours on my grandfather’s 4430 and 4840.


Me too, only my uncle had a JD 4840 and a 4440. This was only after I went off to college and he had to do most of the plowing so he bought these "new" used tractors with cabs and A/C. Prior to that from ages 11-18 he had me riding with no cab on his 2 IH 966s, his 1466 Turbo, and his tricycle 504 to dig ditches. First combine I ever drove was a JD 95R with just a fan blowing (cutting milo with all that dust was a bitch with that machine) and then he upgraded to a 4400 and eventually a 7700. That 7700 was like a cadillac compared to that 95R and that 4400. Lol. Wish my son could experienc the same things I did but the amount of farmers are getting less and the farms are getting bigger around here. I did buy him a 1947 Ford 8N a few months back that we are currently in the process of restoring so at least he is gonna learn some things about working on them.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90556 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:23 pm to
The worst issue on those old IH tractors is the shear pin on the gear shift loves to get slack in it or break completely and it’s hard to get in gear. I had one I used to just keep the floorboard off and would stick a screwdriver down there and shift it that way

They’re also bad about the hydraulic filter clogging up and losing all steering and brakes at terrible times.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90556 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:26 pm to
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JD 4440


I was putting a starter on one of these and I bumped the key to make sure it would turn over. When I did it actually fired up instantly and was stuck in gear. It ran over me and tore the door off my truck. How it didn’t break any bones I don’t know. I got lucky. Was just bruised on my hip and upper leg
Posted by Spoonbilla
Member since Aug 2022
778 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:28 pm to
Yep on all accounts. That 1066 liked to think that it was a rocket when I had the rotovator on the back. Crossing dikes was always fun when it pointed at the moon.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38483 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:31 pm to
You could bust the front axles on them pretty easy too.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13850 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Maintained those tractors will easily run for another 50 years
did a botttom end on a 1972 JD 4630 a few yrs ago, that has no telling how many hrs on it. The oil pump looked brand new. They are amazing machines.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13850 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:44 pm to
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New Cotton picking machine $600,000
the big Deere pickers with a few hundred fan hrs are 900k+. Check fast line.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119083 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:17 pm to
If you like this stuff, check out Just a few acres farm youtube channel. He uses old equipment and has restored several of his old tractors. He's working on one now.
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