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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:22 am to deltaland
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This is pretty cool
Very cool and very smart.
We have to get back to a point of simplicity, at the expense of convenience, and manufacture critical tools in the USA that last indefinitely with service and that a man in the field can fix with available parts
Otherwise, when the Chinese age demographic flips in the next twenty years, we're screwed.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:24 am to deltaland
The stuff that was made before cheap-arse Chinese manufacturing kicked in.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:25 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Oh, and that is one fat arse chick.
Kinda hot tho... like Rachel Ray.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:29 am to TCO
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Someone will be when all those trucks and tractors go to auction.
Trucks yes
Tractors aren’t worth as much as you think. Fully restored international probably 10-20k. There’s a shite ton of those tractors around they aren’t very rare. You can get a rusty one in good running condition for 5-7k
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:30 am to deltaland
Yeah, have you seen the price of new equipment today.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:33 am to deltaland
I think its common.
I live amidst farms. there's always new specialized equipment but also well maintained much older equipment.
Fwiw greed is killing our valley. the county has allowed massive new grape orchards and the water table has got so low that the two all year creeks are dry all summer now.
the creeks no longer support fish hatching.
what a fricking disaster.
these huge orchards are owned by monster companies whose mgmt live in ny or Paris.
grumble.
I live amidst farms. there's always new specialized equipment but also well maintained much older equipment.
Fwiw greed is killing our valley. the county has allowed massive new grape orchards and the water table has got so low that the two all year creeks are dry all summer now.
the creeks no longer support fish hatching.
what a fricking disaster.
these huge orchards are owned by monster companies whose mgmt live in ny or Paris.
grumble.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:35 am to deltaland
My dad has a 2000s JD 6400 but still almost always uses the 1978 Massey
It is definitely not in mint condition
It is definitely not in mint condition
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:37 am to deltaland
Cool equipment. Ole boy looks like hes late for his nap though.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:40 am to CelticDog
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the county has allowed massive new grape orchards and the water table has got so low that the two all year creeks are dry all summer now. the creeks no longer support fish hatching. what a fricking disaster. these huge orchards are owned by monster companies whose mgmt live in ny or Paris. grumble.
Corporate farms are terrible. They care about profit only. They don’t work to keep the land maintained and conserved. They treat workers like crap. They don’t care about the local community.
Family farms aren’t this way.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:43 am to deltaland
Old baw takes care of his equipment... Looks clean as can be.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:44 am to deltaland
We run a '71 John Deere tractor down at the land for bush hogging and planting green fields, not sure of the model, but it runs a hell of a lot better than the '22 Kubota we have down there.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:50 am to keks tadpole
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We have to get back to a point of simplicity, at the expense of convenience
We used to build stuff to last 20 years and was easy to work on. Even appliances. If you couldn’t fix it there were local servicemen who could.
Everything today is designed to last a few years and throw away. A lot of farmers aren’t even as wealthy as they appear. Many get a huge farm loan each year, they lease a 100k truck, lease million dollar equipment for 2 years, buy seed and chemicals and use the loan for living expenses. At harvest they get enough to pay back the bank loan and might have a little left over. All just to keep up with the Joneses and have top notch equipment. You can’t work on new tractors due to the epa crap, the dealerships service dept rapes you. I remember a farmer having to pay 10k to get a fuse replaced because the fuse was located under the tractor cab and had to remove the cab to get to the fuse.
Our entire society has become wasteful and debt driven and when it crashes it will be terrible. The guys like the farmer in OP will be the ones laughing then because his land and equipment is paid for and the bank won’t be taking it
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:00 am to BhamBlazeDog
The new tractors have too much emission crap on them. They run like shite
The raw power and sound of an old IH with a straight pipe is incredible compared to a modern tractor
LINK
The raw power and sound of an old IH with a straight pipe is incredible compared to a modern tractor
LINK
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:03 am to auggie
quote:One of the last things GHW Bush did as POTUS was issue a Presidential Memo to the Manufacturing Community at Large pleading with them to increase their built in obsolescence and to decrease the time to just 5 years.
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Maintained those tractors will easily run for another 50 years.
Yep. That's what we've given up.
This line of reasoning, intended to keep current product levels of quality and increase dependence on constant churn by the consumer is just another form of controlling the masses. Our recent ancestors would have not made as many, if any, economic gains if they were always replacing big ticket home items like fridges, freezers, AC, etc.. Under the Gold Standard money was real and tangible and limited. What anyone else had in the way of cash or cash value DID effect what everyone could have. A constant churn and burn of money replacing time saving/labor saving devices would not have allowed for any accumulation of wealth. As Elon Musk has shown, economic freedom really does mean real freedom in modern society.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:13 am to redstick13
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I spent many hours on my grandfather’s 4430 and 4840
Still running a 4240 at home
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:48 am to deltaland
We have a Ford 4000 from 1970. Still runs like a brand new one(most of the time). Love my lil tractor. Just need it to last a few more years .
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:49 am to deltaland
I don't know tractors, but there are quite a few of those IH "turbos" like in the vid being used around my area yet.
None as clean as that guys stuff though.
None as clean as that guys stuff though.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:54 am to deltaland
There are a ton of older box car CIH tractors running still. Those Cummings motors can't be beat.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:12 am to deltaland
In hindsight, all of us should've kept the stuff made in that era (appliances, etc.). Most got rid of stuff for esthetics.....not that they broke.
That was a time when shite was built right (and probably built in America). Now, everything is cheap, but breaks in a few years. I'd rather pay through the nose if it will last.
That was a time when shite was built right (and probably built in America). Now, everything is cheap, but breaks in a few years. I'd rather pay through the nose if it will last.
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