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re: Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:02 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:02 pm to GRTiger
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His implied belief is if bathrooms were meant to be segregated based on biological sex and not social gender, the little stick figures would have a penis or vagina instead of a dress or slacks
Nope, my knowledge, based on facts which are undeniable, is a public restroom has no biological sex. We designate that bathrooms gender because gender is soicietal and cultural….sex is a biological fact
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:06 pm to AwgustaDawg
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a public restroom has no biological sex.
What does this even mean?
The bathroom has no sex. It's a room. It's segregated based on sex. That's why there are 0.0 urinals (aka toilets for dick owners) in any public women's restroom anywhere in the world.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:11 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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Are there urinals in “female” bathrooms? Why are the lines at sporting events longer at “female” bathrooms than at the “male” bathrooms? Societal construct?
Yes. There are urinals in female bathrooms. Go to a porta potty with a ladies sign on the door….it’ll have what passes for a urinal in it. I know of 2 ladies rooms with urinals in them on a large government installation. A urinal does not make a men’s room though. Many men’s room do not have urinals either.
Lines are longer because it is slightly more difficult for women to pee. They have to undress to a greater extent than men do and mens and ladies rooms in most stadiums are the same size and toilets require more space than urinals by code so there’s fewer drains to use.
The entire gender specific bathroom idea and associated traits of those bathrooms is exactly the same as gender in people. Gender is what we define it as, sex is science. Bathrooms do not have a sex…they may have a gender.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:11 pm to AwgustaDawg
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facts which are undeniable
You definitely don't know what this means or when to use it.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:14 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:20 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Gender is what we define it as, sex is science. Bathrooms do not have a sex…they may have a gender.
No, only those unable of accepting the truth think you can define your own gender. There are 2 genders male and female to deny that is to deny science. Gender and biological sex are connected together. Only those with an agenda deny that.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:21 pm to GRTiger
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What does this even mean? The bathroom has no sex. It's a room. It's segregated based on sex. That's why there are 0.0 urinals (aka toilets for dick owners) in any public women's restroom anywhere in the world.
Just about every porta potty in the world has a urinal in it. It is common for these to be designated as mens or ladies rooms….if you’ve ever been on a construction site you have probably seen this.
But let’s pretend you’re correct. The absence of a urinal makes a bathroom a ladies room meant for females ONLY. What about bathrooms with no urinals with a men’s sign on the door? Are all of the men who use that bathroom making women uncomfortable or breaking some sort of social compact?
Plumbing fixtures literally have nothing to do with biological sec in bathrooms or people. It is really strange that so many people suffer from plumbing confusion…
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:24 pm to AwgustaDawg
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gender is soicietal and cultural….sex is a biological fact
This is pure bullshite and you’re feeble minded enough to have fallen for it.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:27 pm to AwgustaDawg
You simply refuse to see the point. Or you lack the capability. Either way, take a play or two off champ.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:30 pm to SOSFAN
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No, only those unable of accepting the truth think you can define your own gender. There are 2 genders male and female to deny that is to deny science. Gender and biological sex are connected together. Only those with an agenda deny that.
You have a point. Every publisher of English language dictionaries has an agenda to deny your assertion because they are in the business of defining words correctly.
It is not possible for a biological man to be a biological woman. It is possible that man may identify their self as feminine. It isn’t common but it does indeed happen. It really disturbs people when an individual does not meet their expectations. To the point that they will support legislation to force compliance with those expectations. You can’t do this and also support the concept of liberty.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:35 pm to AwgustaDawg
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is possible that man may identify their self as feminine. It isn’t common but it does indeed happen. It
You can call yourself whatever you please but that doesn't make it true. A male can have feminine characteristics but he is still a male. Females can have masculine characteristics but is still a female. To deny this is to deny one's true self.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:38 pm to GRTiger
[quote]You simply refuse to see the point. Or you lack the capability. Either way, take a play or two off champ.[/quote
You’re right….I categororically refuse to see a point based in falsehoods. Sex is science, gender is not.
Your whole “take a play off” thing is so adorable. Bless your heart. It indicates the heart of an authoritarian and is no doubt coupled with your fears of things you do not have the mental capacity to understand and your guilt over your secret desires best tamped way down in your psyche lest you be outed….
You’re right….I categororically refuse to see a point based in falsehoods. Sex is science, gender is not.
Your whole “take a play off” thing is so adorable. Bless your heart. It indicates the heart of an authoritarian and is no doubt coupled with your fears of things you do not have the mental capacity to understand and your guilt over your secret desires best tamped way down in your psyche lest you be outed….
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:40 pm to SOSFAN
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You can call yourself whatever you please but that doesn't make it true. A male can have feminine characteristics but he is still a male. Females can have masculine characteristics but is still a female. To deny this is to deny one's true self.
This is what I have been trying to point out all along. Sex can’t be denied. Gender is open to interpretation by the individual. You’re liable to take some flack for knowing what words mean…..
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:47 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Gender is open to interpretation by the individual. You’re liable to take some flack for knowing
You're totally off base. I said you can call yourself whatever you want but if doesn't match your biological chromosomes then you're just lying to everyone. Gender is not nor has been nor will ever be open to interpretation. Individuals that define themselves as a different gender than the chromosomes they have are mentally ill. We shouldn't go along with mental issues just to make someone feel better.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:49 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Sex is science, gender is not.
Gender and sex are the same so therefore they are science. Your misinformation campaign is failing.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:01 pm to AwgustaDawg
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You’re right….I categororically refuse to see a point based in falsehoods. Sex is science, gender is not.
Your whole “take a play off” thing is so adorable. Bless your heart. It indicates the heart of an authoritarian and is no doubt coupled with your fears of things you do not have the mental capacity to understand and your guilt over your secret desires best tamped way down in your psyche lest you be outed….
I don't understand, can you keep going?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
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So we need regulation to keep men out of ladies rooms to prevent rape?
The point is that regulation shouldn't be necessary. Separating the sexes in confined public spaces like bathrooms where clothes are being removed (from adults and children) should be obvious.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:04 pm to AwgustaDawg
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AwgustaDawg
You deserve an OT award (whatever that is worth) for engaging people who disagree with you with respect.
I do have a question for you. We know that genotype and phenotype find expression in biological sex and outward physical appearance. And I am not saying gender is a genotypical trait.
But you did say that gender is socially and culturally constructed. I guess I am wondering if you think that society and culture just totally winged it in their construction of gender? Or is it remotely possible that the construction of gender was informed or influenced in some way by biology and biological sex?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:13 pm to SOSFAN
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You're totally off base. I said you can call yourself whatever you want but if doesn't match your biological chromosomes then you're just lying to everyone. Gender is not nor has been nor will ever be open to interpretation.
Oh I knew full well what you meant. Gender is completely subjective. It is not a fact by any definition.
“ We shouldn't go along with mental issues just to make someone feel better.”
Again, you’re right. Folks who suffer from irrational fears suffer from the most common mental issue….anxiety disorder. Anyone who is put off by a man in a dress is suffering from mental issues. We should not go along with them to make them feel better. No one has anything to fear from a man in a dress that is based in reality. It is the fear of the unusual based on ignorance. This mental disorder varies among sufferers from fearing for the safety of children with no evidence that a man in a dress is a threat to a child to women getting raped in public bathrooms because rape ain’t already a crime to supporting legislation aimed at curtailing personal choice. Or worse. The only thing inherently fearful associated with a man in a dress is that man may be happy…and too many among us hate the idea of someone else being happy when they are so damned miserable….
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:18 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Gender is completely subjective.
That's 100% false. Your gender is determined by your chromosomes. When you can change that then we can talk.
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Anyone who is put off by a man in a dress is suffering from mental issues. We should not go along with them to make them feel better. No one has anything to
Wear a dress all you want I don't care just as long as you know you're a man wearing a dress. If a mentally ill individual believes they can fly do you encourage them to go jump off a building.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 7:25 pm
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