re: Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”

Serious question....what are y'all doing in public restrooms which indicate a trans person is present??? I think we have found the source of the angst....

When I go to a public restroom I just assume everyone in it is a man. I don't ask, I don't sneak a peek and, in all honesty, I try to not even notice anyone else in there. It ain't the place for idle conversation or surreptitious sneaking glances at the other people present....either is simply weird. Presumably anyone in there could have a vagina and some huge breasts and to be honest I would never suspect the former and would merely think something was physically wrong with them if I noticed the latter. Apparently I am in the minority in this...apparently a good many of you go to the bathroom in public and somehow VERIFY everyone's reproductive organs are correct for the environment they are in. That is some truly bizarre and twisted shite y'all got going on...but you do you boo, who I am to judge.

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I suspect there is a lot of mental health issues involved....they may be outright insane or they may actually be suffering and transitioning physically with hormones and surgery may make them more comfortable in their own body.

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You asked another poster why a person like this would be problematic in a bathroom. These are your words.

It is very obvious when you are talking to a man who is transitioning. Your 6th sense picks it up. They are larger than the average female, generally have over pronounced "female" mannerisms, unusually high pitch for a voice, not very good at doing hair/makeup, etc.

Your spidey senses know you're around a person who isn't right in the head. So again, biological women - who are at a physical disadvantage and are at risk of rape/pregnancy - don't want to be taking care of private business in the same room as a mentally ill man pumped full of hormones.

The fact that I'm even having to defend this position to you tells you the absolute clown world we are living in.

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The fact that I'm even having to defend this position to you tells you the absolute clown world we are living in.

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Don't waste any more of your time or energy with him. I'm not. This will be the last time I post in this thread.

To any interested observers out there, read through this thread and draw your own conclusions. I believe the record speaks for itself.

Awgusta is sophist incapable of winning this debate on the merit of his claims; he has to fabricate false premises and "facts" in order to argue his position. He is even willing to lie unashamedly. When challenged and presented with incontrovertible evidence that he is lying, he will double down on his lies.

He's losing a two-fronted war to both logic and practical lived human experience. He has no interest in truth; just "winning" and he will pull every dirty trick in the book to win at all costs, just like an obedient, radical revolutionist does. Because he can't win a fair chess match, he attempts to manipulate the pieces when he thinks we aren't looking in order to bring about his desired result.

He is now cowering in his bunker, pointing fingers at us and claiming that we're the weird, crazy freaks in need of counseling. FTR, these are verbatim excerpts from one of his earlier posts:

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School kids 6 and 8 years old walking by these displays without a moment's notice. Some of those kids actually emerging from the doorway of brothels.

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There is nothing at all evil about those stores or the brothels on that street.

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I suspect that he will watch this thread like a vulture for the sole purpose of getting the last word in, with the hopes that it makes him look like the victor.

If gender is completely subjective, then why is it so important for them to get everyone else to agree with them ?

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Your spidey senses know you're around a person who isn't right in the head. So again, biological women - who are at a physical disadvantage and are at risk of rape/pregnancy - don't want to be taking care of private business in the same room as a mentally ill man pumped full of hormones.

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Yep, statistically speaking, biological women are 5-6 times more likely to be raped than biological men. No reason they should be sharing bathrooms.

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There is nothing inherently biological about a bathroom. Its gender is assigned by societal and cultural traits.

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Are there urinals in “female” bathrooms? Why are the lines at sporting events longer at “female” bathrooms than at the “male” bathrooms? Societal construct?

I don’t give a shite if a grown man chooses to dress like a woman.

I do however give a shite if some liberal teacher tries to convince a 3rd grader that it’s normal and groom them into doing it.

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There is far more to being a man than having a penis.

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Like what?

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But it’s very upsetting the way this tiny minority of people has managed to capture the discourse and really talk errant nonsense."

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Literally awgusta in this thread

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It is very obvious when you are talking to a man who is transitioning. Your 6th sense picks it up. They are larger than the average female, generally have over pronounced "female" mannerisms, unusually high pitch for a voice, not very good at doing hair/makeup, etc.

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Who is carrying on a conversation with a stranger in a public restroom? Is this something y’all do on a regular basis? That’s creepy as creepy gets. I knew y’all had to be doing something strange in there but I had no idea it was as bad as engaging in conversation with a stranger in a public bathroom. I doubt it ends with breaking that social taboo though…

I would also suggest that if a woman in a public bathroom is put out by bad hair and makeup and responding to her “6th” sense there’s is certainly someone in that bathroom with some mental issues…..

Is it just the presence of this tall, hulking woman with a strange voice and acting more like a woman than most women that these frail women fear as rapists? So that tall, ungainly woman, bent on raping someone in a public restroom, is foiled by a law preventing them being in that bathroom? They are willing to rape but using the wrong bathroom is too serious a crime????

How are we gonna enforce this law??? Let’s say one of these frail women, suffering from irrational fears but engaging in conversations with strangers in public bathrooms, runs across one of these ungainly women with bad hair and makeup. She manages to make good her escape even though the would be rapist never acknowledges her attempts to strike up a conversation. Does she call the police? How does that conversation go???

Officer to ugly woman: “Excuse me….do you have any ID”?

Ugly woman, in a high pitch voice: “ Yes, I do…why do you ask”?

Officer: “A lady called and said there was a man in a dress in the ladies room:

Here’s where it may go off the rails…

Ugly woman ( and how to tell she is actually a woman) “Oh my….I’m so glad to have survived….I could’ve been raped and Impregnated”

Or possibly….

Ugly woman : “You mean that crazy lady who would not shut up in there….do you know she tried to engage in a conversation with a stranger in a public restroom”

To which the officer would reply “No ma’am….we did not know she was a mental patient. We apologize. Have a nice day”.

Seriously, I understand that y’all are overwrought about men in dresses in the ladies room but y’all obviously haven’t gone beyond your own irrational fears and considered what it is you’re scared of….