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re: Facebook bans Trump indefinitely from the platform

Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:54 am to
Posted by caro81
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well i will argue they they should be able to. whether you like it or not it is their decisions.
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:54 am to
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If you would've told me 10 years ago that the left would use multinational corporations and big business to threaten and coerce the public into submission out of fear of ruination, I would've told you that you were insane.


Those platforms are actively involved in social engineering.

I never understood Trumps use of Twitter. It was the one thing I hated about his term. He just set himself up so damn many times.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:54 am to
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So we should all be outraged whenever an admin here bans a poster?


...what?

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Cause their "freedom of speech" has been violated?



...what?

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Like it or not...FB and Twitter are private companies and can do whatever they want in determining who does/doesn't use their platforms.


I'm aware...I literally just argued that




Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:56 am to
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If you would've told me 10 years ago that the left would use multinational corporations and big business to threaten and coerce the public into submission out of fear of ruination, I would've told you that you were insane


I could have told you because they've been doing it in Canada and Europe under the same guise of equality and social justice.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:56 am to
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never understood Trumps use of Twitter. It was the one thing I hated about his term. He just set himself up so damn many times.



Only way he felt he could get his message out.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 am to
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Only way he felt he could get his message out.


The "Trump News Network" is gonna be lit
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 am to
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I'm aware...I literally just argued that


That's the reason I posted to you, we agreed on that point


It wasn't an attack on you Salmon
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 am to
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I thought most of you were all about private companies being able to do what they wanted?

The issue is that they're extremely influential in their control of information and they never apply their TOS equally. The biggest gripe people have is that they silence one side and not the other so their site basically turns into a giant propaganda machine that influences society on an extremely large scale.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 am to
The most racist news network ever
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:59 am to
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Those platforms are actively involved in social engineering.

I never understood Trumps use of Twitter. It was the one thing I hated about his term. He just set himself up so damn many times.


His use of Twitter was to get his message out directly through to the people rather than have it run through the filter of the media. It was his most valuable tool and probably the thing that hurt him the most as well. He was able to exploit the fact that he couldn't get banned and he was smart to do it.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:00 am to
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The biggest gripe people have is that they silence one side and not the other so their site basically turns into a giant propaganda machine that influences society on an extremely large scale.


Yeah

I can believe that private companies can and should have the right to censor whoever they please, and also acknowledge that having massive information monopolies is a terrible thing for society

my default is that allowing society itself to fix this issue is the best course, but I doubt many would agree because there will probably be some big bumps along the way
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:01 am to
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Only way he felt he could get his message out.


Should be a huge red flag right there. Using a very twisted platform to get your message out in under 280 characters is a terrible strategy.

He had a few friends in the media he could have used as a mouthpiece. Twitter? Thats just dumb. In the end, this was his undoing.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 11:01 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:01 am to
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my default is that allowing society itself to fix this issue is the best course, but I doubt many would agree because there will probably be some big bumps along the way


The government getting involved surely won't fix anything, they're in on it right now too
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:02 am to
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e had a few friends in the media he could have used as a mouthpiece


Which friends? All but Foix News gave him anything resembling a fair shake, and even they gt in on the globalist agenda the last year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282539 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:02 am to
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His use of Twitter was to get his message out directly through to the people rather than have it run through the filter of the media.


He had friends in Media Twitter is toxic, has been toxic and is a very poor form of communiction.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:02 am to
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Yeah

I can believe that private companies can and should have the right to censor whoever they please, and also acknowledge that having massive information monopolies is a terrible thing for society

my default is that allowing society itself to fix this issue is the best course, but I doubt many would agree because there will probably be some big bumps along the way

That JRE with Tim Pool, Dorsey, and his lawyer was pretty eye opening. The top people at Twitter know they're accountable to no one and will do what they please with impunity and they don't really care who knows it because they know they're made men.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:05 am to
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He had friends in Media Twitter is toxic, has been toxic and is a very poor form of communiction.



No, he didn't.

He had one or two people on Fox News. Everyone else that was kissing his arse and hanging out with him the previous 25 years all of a sudden had to act as if they hated him.

It was the best and most direct route to get his message out so he used it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282539 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:06 am to
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He had one or two people on Fox News

Yep.

But he chose Twitter.

Its been my biggest knock on him since he took office. What did he think would happen? I don't think he thought it through.

Twitter is the poorest of poor way to get your message out.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:06 am to
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I think Youtube is going to see the largest transformation.

100% this. It has already started happening. When you account for the large amount of Conservative voices on that platform, it is a huge target. However, it will be a bit like YouTube cutting off its nose to spite its face with the fact that alot of those content creators are major drivers of ad revenue with big followings.

Just yesterday livestreams from the protests were being whacked left and right. Not even just streams from people on the ground, but streams of news coverage and other type things were taken down. That is china-like suppression, and should be worrisome to everyone.
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