re: F-35 jet found / Marines ground all aviation units worldwide

They found it about two miles from some property I own down there.

Apparently the swamp swallowed it up and muffled the crash.

That happens some times. Not too far from I-95 where they just found a missing couple who had run off the road 20 years ago.

Hey Ukraine, want some F-35s? Swear to god they run good.

As for the safety standown, it can sometimes be after several events in short order, and this was last straw. Does not mean it was human error, but likely too many bad things happening in the Corp in a small window of time.

As for the cause, they will find out. As soon as it happened the logs/records are confiscsted and every maintenance action is looked at. Pilot will have been sent for pee and given a physical. Everything will be looked at.

As for bailing early its better than bailing late. Many reasons including he might have indicated something and been ordered to bail.

When I was in Navy on deployment right after the Gulf War 1 in 91, we had an E-2 AWACS that caught fire. Had 4 crew and fire would not go out after extinguishers used. Had helo in area and were told to bail out and put on auto pilot. The assumption is it would burn up and crash in ocean, only it didn’t. It was headed towards Israel and after that it would make it to Iraq. Well, thats not good.

So an F/A-18 was ordered to shoot it down with a Sidewinder so it never makes land. But damn, they could not get a tone. So then they had to shoot it down with bullets. I got to watch the video of us shooting down our own plane. Crazy stuff.

Also watched an F-14D crash after an engine failure, that was when we had Discovery Channel onboard filming a documentary in 94. Were in first week of deployment heading to Hawaaii. You can see that one on YouTube, its called “Carrier, Fortress at Sea”. I’m in the video more than once but it basically showed carrier life.

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As for the safety standown, it can sometimes be after several events in short order,

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This is what happened in the Navy squadron I was attached to. Two accidents (pilot & maint errors) with multiple fatalities. The C O was relieved, the Training Dept and Safety Dept was reorganized. It was a wake up call for all on how we were doing things and the needed corrections implemented.

Pilot baled but plane still flying in auto ? Something fishy going on here ! Hope the are open on the investigation !

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There was nothing funny about the memorial services and the stand down we had.

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Sorry about your losses.

Wasn't trying to be callous, just speaking about my experiences with safety standowns in my squadron and their ultimate inability to affect any change. Military aviation is inherently dangerous, but we can do better.

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Okay, it just hit me wrong. It was a long time ago and it was my introduction to aviation. It still seems like yesterday. It was also some lessons that I carried throughout my career about complacency and how it can creep up on you if you don’t stay vigilant.
Agree, perfection is hard to achieve but it doesn’t mean we stop trying to reach it.
Fly safe.

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The safety standowns are truly to check a block.

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That's it. Simply a directive from HQ/NAF to say "We did something."

Doesn't actually do shite to back off of high ops tempos or relieve already worn out people of training requirements. Also we need you to plan the squadron (insert holiday here) party.

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That's it. Simply a directive from HQ/NAF to say "We did something."

Doesn't actually do shite to back off of high ops tempos or relieve already worn out people of training requirements. Also we need you to plan the squadron (insert holiday here) party.

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And because of the standown you have to make up missed sorties in less days which does put more stress on everyone (when its all hands thats no flying unless deployed).