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re: Extended C8 Corvette discussion: It is being called a sports car market disrupter

Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:45 am to
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:45 am to
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The 911 may lose a few to the C8, but if you want a 911, that's the car you want.


This.^^^

My price range was loaded new Corvette, slightly equipped Cayman S, or 3-4 yr. old 911. I’ve been a Porsche fan since I was a kid. If $120K was in my comfort zone, it’s a 911 without a second thought. Even a ZR1 Vette doesn’t get a second glance.
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:46 am to
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Legitimate concern with a new platform. Always something crops up that is out of the realm of what seems possible.

Does the engine have to be pulled for a spark plug change?


I did hear in an interview online with one of the Corvette engineers that basic maintenance including spark plugs changes does not require removing the engine.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:03 am to
It won't be a rare car either.

There may be a few dealers who play the ADM game initially, but GM is gonna build a ton of 'em, so just sit tight for a bit.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:14 am to
corvettes are trashy
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:23 am to
I’m in the market. Would you rather have this or a jacked up Sierra Denali? I can’t decide between the 2. My current ride is a 2010 Chevy Malibu and let’s just say I have enough to buy either in cash
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:24 am to
Lmao
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8111 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 10:40 am to
Another factor that lead to just buying a ‘19 Grand Sport was that they still hadn’t worked out all the kinks with the C7 Z06 overheating issues, A8 transmission issues (though I bought manual), etc. No way in hell was I buying a first year C8 even if I loved the appearance.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 11:51 am to
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C7 Z06 overheating issues


Well, that sucks. I thought they had that pretty much whipped.

The bane of a supercharged car is heatsoak.
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:58 pm to
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depends on the person. Is rowing through the gears and heel toeing more fun than setting the quickest time?

I might prefer a manual on a nice curvy mountain road, but give me the DCT on the track every time

It would be a few years before I'd consider taking it to a track . It isn't so much about speed for me ,but having complete control of this 500 hp beast. Always being near fully engaged driving it.


You're a 911 guy? I think Porsche had to bring back the Manual or scrap it's plans to discontinue it because of outraged 911 "purists"? I know it doesn't make sense wanting to stick with outdated/ inferior technology,but....
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:09 pm to
Have you owned several Corvettes?

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:40 pm to
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You're a 911 guy? I think Porsche had to bring back the Manual or scrap it's plans to discontinue it because of outraged 911 "purists"? I know it doesn't make sense wanting to stick with outdated/ inferior technology,but...

Yea they re committed to manuals after outrage over the most of their line up slated to be pdk only.

I drive my manual turbo daily. It's great, but I never get the "manual or die/I have no control in an auto" feeling.

Manual is fun but some people act like you might as well uber if you want a non-manual car. Like yea I feel so connected/engaged and have that control I NEED for my 5 mile traffic filled commute to work.

Just my opinion, but if you need a stick to feel in control or engaged with the car, the issue isn't the transmission.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:45 pm to
Manuals are dead.

People need to get over it.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Have you owned several Corvettes?


Oh no. Honestly I never really " got it" when it came to Corvettes & most definitely could NOT afford them anyway( not new at least) . Finally in the market now & the C8 is the 1st one that's peaked my curiosity. I know it's mostly emotional to want the most outdated technology, but .....it Would be nice if Vette owners could convince GM to keep the manual like Porsche owners did .


GMs Chief Engineer called manuals a " dying business". Says even the hardcore Z06 manual sales dropped to 15% after offering the Automatics . Im not their customer & I understand them dropping it due to low demand/ costs.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:47 pm to
I have a friend on another board who has a white 71 she calls "Sugar".

She could probably out drive everyone posting in this thread.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 5:04 pm to
Not yet. Manuals are glorious. Outside of a dual clutch setup, and only some of those, it’s still the best.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 5:14 pm to
Just about everybody is using DCTs.

Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 5:59 pm to
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I drive my manual turbo daily. It's great, but I never get the "manual or die/I have no control in an auto" feeling.

Manual is fun but some people act like you might as well uber if you want a non-manual car. Like yea I feel so connected/engaged and have that control I NEED for my 5 mile traffic filled commute to work.

Just my opinion, but if you need a stick to feel in control or engaged with the car, the issue isn't the transmission.



It's absolutely emotional ,but car purschases of this type are emotional/ irrational. I' m sure a 370z, Mustang GT,etc....& other cars can be just as exciting on the street/ track than a Porsche/ Vette costing 2 or 3 times more . But some Porsche owners wouldn't be caught in a Mustang / 370z .


I'm open to the DCT & I'm mostly hearing positive feedback from those who have owned both. But I also understand that there are more practical , budget friendly options that have manual transmissions still if I have reservations.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:05 pm to
The DCT is the single most important thing that allows the C8 495/470 @ 3300 lbs to go 0-60 in less than 3.0 secs.

The tremendous advances in DCTs, along with manufacturer collaboration, are the present, and the future.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41091 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:17 pm to
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It's absolutely emotional ,but car purschases of this type are emotional/ irrational. I' m sure a 370z, Mustang GT,etc....& other cars can be just as exciting on the street/ track than a Porsche/ Vette costing 2 or 3 times more . But some Porsche owners wouldn't be caught in a Mustang / 370z .


I'm open to the DCT & I'm mostly hearing positive feedback from those who have owned both. But I also understand that there are more practical , budget friendly options that have manual transmissions still if I have reservations.


Have you owned a manual car before?
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:19 pm to
JK, what happened to BLKBEARd?

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