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re: Explain the incel “movement” to me like I’m an idiot

Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:31 pm to
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I mean as long as you start the convo right, no I don't think it's creepy. Literally just mention a shared experience that happened while you were both doing yoga. "Heh, did you see that guy fall?" or "Jesus, I was next to a woman who could make a pretzel out of herself and I can barely touch my toes ha, I guess I need to come more often
How long have you been doing this?"


This. If you don't make it weird, it won't be.

I find the bulldog to actually be a pretty tough place to go to by myself to strike up a conversation (unless I bring a dog) because the place is so big and there's really nothing else going on other than people sitting together in groups eating and drinking. Yoga at Tin Roof on Wednesdays is thus a way better opportunity because there's a shared experience to comment on and reasons to walk up to a random stranger, even if they're in a group, and talk to them. The bull dog isn't an easy place to "run game" if you don't have an adorable dog with you, or a mutual friend of a friend with you in your group to give you an excuse to butt into theirs.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Comedy is about cadence, confidence, and being funny. What you actually say is almost irrelevant. It's all about the delivery. Women laugh at people who ARE funny, not at jokes. It's a very important distinction. BEING funny is very attractive because it shows someone who is fun, humble, yet completely self-assured and confident. A lot of women really respond to that.



And it’s really about becoming a good storyteller. Plus if you’re in a big group and start telling jokes, sometimes you’ll have guys that try to respond with jokes of their own. If you can constantly one up their joke telling ability, you’ve elevated yourself and knocked them down a peg.

Basically you’ve increased your value with the women in your audience. They see you as better than someone at something now.

And telling jokes well teaches you how to control a room. How to have people paying attention to YOU.

And women are drawn to men that other people are giving attention to.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:40 pm to
Not one single time have I ever told a joke to pick up a girl, or even on a date. That's pretty corny IMHO. The girls I date would sniff out insecurities almost instantly, and the "fake it till you make it" approach would never work. I date socially dominant chicks (not loud and obnoxious) though.

Now, if a quiet, shy dude went up and spoke to them, they'd definitely spend time talking with him. He just couldn't act like a douche or try-hard
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:45 pm to
what are some books on how to be funny, to women? i dont egven know what women like to talk about

also, i think befriending a popular dude would help. they know girls, and friends of girls, so on.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68384 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:49 pm to
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Not one single time have I ever told a joke to pick up a girl, or even on a date. That's pretty corny IMHO. The girls I date would sniff out insecurities almost instantly, and the "fake it till you make it" approach would never work. I date socially dominant chicks (not loud and obnoxious) though.


You don't lead with an "icebreaker" or a bad joke. You sprinkle them in with the conversation. The "fake it" approach is all about learning what body language betrays you, not acting like a douche bag. Think of it like that scene in "The Campaign" where the campaign manager is trying to get Marty to say "Now why don't you pick this crap up off the beach" like Bert Reynolds says it. It's about learning how to carry one's self and speak in a way that even using the same words comes across completely differently.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:51 pm to
Depending on the dong department he might be able to break into interracial porn with wannabe sorority sisters. Just has to hit the gym to get at least a blue collar physique.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:53 pm to
I wish there was a sign pointing me in the right direction. this is so hard. I wasted my college years, and its not going to get any easier.Where can you meet nice, hard working women? who are also hot lol
no women in the industry im in .
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68384 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:54 pm to
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i dont egven know what women like to talk about


They like to talk about themselves, and about other women they don't like (which is ALL other women). The key to talking to women is to allow them to talk about themselves while making them laugh every now and then.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:57 pm to
Better approach is to just get comfortable talking to people you run into. That'll help someone figure out how to keep conversations flowing like a normal person
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68384 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Better approach is to just get comfortable talking to people you run into. That'll help someone figure out how to keep conversations flowing like a normal person


I was advocating for studying jokes and comedians as a way to learn what kinds of observations people find funny in order to get more comfortable and confident when striking up conversations with strangers in public.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Basically you’ve increased your value with the women in your audience. They see you as better than someone at something now.

And telling jokes well teaches you how to control a room. How to have people paying attention to YOU.

There's a fine line between being funny/life of the party and just being a one-upping douche that won't shut up (I don't mean you, Fr33).

Being funny is a good ice breaker, but ultimately women want you to allow them to talk about themselves a bit.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68384 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:02 pm to
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There's a fine line between being funny/life of the party and just being a one-upping douche that won't shut up (I don't mean you, Fr33).


Very true. That's why self-deprecation is key.

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Being funny is a good ice breaker, but ultimately women want you to allow them to talk about themselves a bit.


Bingo. You use the life of the party in the big group so you can split the girl you want to talk to off where she can talk about herself. It's been scientifically proven that the more a person talks about their self during a conversation, the higher opinion they tend to have of the person they're conversing with afterwards. Basically, the more a girl is allowed to talk about herself, the more she'll like you. However, the less comfortable she is around you, the less willing she will be to talk about herself. Humor is how you make women more comfortable to be around you and talk about themselves.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130040 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:05 pm to
I’m not telling jokes to pick up a girl, i’m Telling jokes to feel out a crowd or a room. It’s about moving energy and creating atmosphere.

You don’t have to be telling jokes, or telling stories...but you should have that same sort of energy. It’s hard to explain.

You can’t be the guy that is trying to get the attention. You have to be able to learn to project positive, feel good energy that has people laughing and smiling. People have to feel your energy and say to themselves “now this is the dude that makes stuff happen.”



You want to be the guy that isn’t sucking the life out of the party but infusing it into it.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 3:09 pm
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38745 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:18 pm to
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jesus christ, I don't give a shite about your god damn problems


I didn't mean me.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Have they always existed? Of course. But are their numbers growing? I'd argue yes. 



It's hard to say. In past generations, people married out of necessity, not necessarily love. A single person was one who was going to have a difficult time surviving. So you hitched up and if you didn't care that much for your spouse, you hopefully developed affection for them over time. Having a choice in the matter has only has only been a function of the last 125 or so years, and in some places its still not true.

I don't imagine there are many incels in rural India or Peru. Some woman there is desperate enough to marry even the most dysfunctional guy.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56754 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:25 pm to
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Now, Scruffy got himself a girlfriend he’ll likely end up marrying...and he WAY outkicked his coverage

She’s gonna divorce rape you bro. Chicks don’t respect short men
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:27 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:28 pm to
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imo, people are just naturally funny. they can tell stories that keep people's attention. these stories 9 times out of 10 are personal experiences so its something that is told with the right emotion and tone

i have a great story about how shania twain hates mayo
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38745 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 3:29 pm to
no.

Sorry for ruining your incel party.

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