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Evergrande reportedly missed its $83.53 million March 2022 bond payment that was due today
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:03 am
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:03 am
A follow up to this thread from yesterday
They missed the interest payment that was due today.
Maybe the check just got lost in the mail
They missed the interest payment that was due today.
Maybe the check just got lost in the mail
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 7:04 am
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:05 am to stout
things you hate to see:
not this.
not this.
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:07 am to stout
What are the repercussions from this?
Haven't been following this story
Haven't been following this story
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:08 am to geauxtigers87
quote:
things you hate to see:
not this.
Yea I get it. We all hate China but this has the potential to do a lot of damage globally so once again China may put the screws to the rest of the world.
China also announced it's putting a leash on Crypto
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:08 am to stout
Foreclosures comin’ to a US city near you!
When there’s blood on the streets….yada yada
When there’s blood on the streets….yada yada
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:09 am to SDVTiger
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What are the repercussions from this?
Haven't been following this story
Some of it was speculated in the thread from yesterday I linked in the OP
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:11 am to stout
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:12 am to geauxtigers87
This isn't a laugh at China type of thing from afar
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:14 am to MrLarson
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Reuters says they have a 30 day grace or is that is whats up?
They do but...
quote:
The reality is that even as of this moment, the company is facing a default on its offshore bonds which have a $83.5 million interest payment due on Sept 23 on the 8.25% bonds due 2022. Incidentally, these same bonds traded down 0.7 cent to 24.5 cents, according to Bloomberg-compiled prices, suggesting that creditors still expect a full default.
“Evergrande might have arrived at some kind of standstill with onshore holders,” said Daniel Fan, a credit analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence. “They might have asked them not to act, pending for negotiation for a rescheduling or something of that sort.”
But the biggest problem, as represented in the chart below, is that whether it is local or foreign, the company has billions of debt payments due in coming months and years. Just in the next 3 months, the developer owes $669 million in interest through the end of this year, including $83.5 million for the coupon payment due Sept. 23 on the dollar bond. There’s a 30-day grace period before a missed payment on that note would become a default, according to the bond covenants.
The bottom line is that absent a wholesale restructuring with local creditors which will certainly involve impairments – and potentially pressure from Beijing – Evergrande simply does not have the capacity to make payment-by-payment arrangements with its countless creditors, and thus last night’s announcement has just delayed the inevitable. As for foreign bondholders, expect to be crammed down to the very bottom of the stock, perhaps even below the equity: after all Xi has to make someone pay.
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:15 am to SDVTiger
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What are the repercussions from this?
Haven't been following this story
Joe Biden will be calling China to ask how much money they need
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:15 am to Deactived
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This isn't a laugh at China type of thing from afar
It’s not, but it’s definitely a “China is about to frick the world over” again thing.
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:18 am to upgrayedd
Oh BTW, one of the largest buyers of Evergrande debt is Blackrock. Blackrock is the world's largest asset manager and owns tons of RE.
HSBC apparently also has a large exposure to it as well.
HSBC apparently also has a large exposure to it as well.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 7:20 am
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:19 am to geauxtigers87
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things you hate to see: not this.
Are you unaware that this country is in a massive debt bubble with inflation and near zero interest rates?
I would wait before you start laughing and pointing fingers. When the mess we have created finally comes unraveled you will hate to see it.
I know I know… the stock market never goes down long term! Just keep investing
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:21 am to stout
Biden Money Machine go brrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:22 am to stout
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As for foreign bondholders, expect to be crammed down to the very bottom of the stock, perhaps even below the equity: after all Xi has to make someone pay.
Prepare thy anus
This will cause a ripple Or a splash.
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:23 am to ibldprplgld
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but it’s definitely a “China is about to frick the world over” again thing.
China is asshoe
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China Declares All Virtual Currency Transactions "Illegal", Sending Crypto Prices Tumbling
LINK
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:24 am to stout
I thought we literally just got word that they would make this months payment yesterday
Appreciate the dead cat bounce in the markets, China
Appreciate the dead cat bounce in the markets, China
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:25 am to MrLarson
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This will cause a ripple Or a splash.
I’m being super lazy and need to read through the thread yesterday, but…
to the US housing market or the global economy as a whole?
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