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re: Ever give up on a puppy?

Posted on 4/16/16 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 4:24 pm to
Seriously just beat the little bitch until she complies. If you see her doing something you don't like, WHAP
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 4:27 pm to
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I have a pure breed and a mutt and the mutt is insanely a better behaved dog.


I heard somewhere that it has been scientifically proven that mutts are far more intelligent than purebreads.
Posted by SNAKERIVER
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2016
413 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 6:15 pm to
I am on my sixth rescue but first puppy. I have never had a problem- the more love you give, the more gratitude they show. But with the puppy, we use the crate for sleeping and when we are not home as he chews. He goes to daycare during the day for socialization and to wear him out some. Everyday gets better. Go to a pro trainer and give him a chance. Or find him a home with someone who will. Some children do not love animals. You can't teach that. It isn't always easy. Dogs are as different as children.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3714 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 6:54 pm to
I inherited a dog from my mom who couldn't handle it. Was told it had terrible aggression issues and didn't listen at all. After 6 months of hard training, it is now the most well trained dog I've ever had. Moral of the story bad dogs are caused by bad owners. They can all learn given the time and effort.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22025 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:01 pm to
Beatings will continue until morale improves....
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
23195 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:05 pm to
You do doggy daycare every day??? You must be a true OT baller or are broke as hell!
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117721 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:14 pm to
One of my dogs, was a puppy someone gave up on. I got her when she was 4 or 5 months old. She is two now, I have another dog that is a year older than her, but the girl who had her before me got her for her daughter. The girl worked and during the day they would have to leave the dog in the kennel for 11-12 hrs a day, she is full of energy. She is a mixed breed, but its obvious she has some jack russell in her.

I had the girl bring the dog over to my house before I agreed, just so I could see how things would start off with her and my other dog. I told the girl I would more than likely take her, but asked if I could think it over for the rest of that weekend. Obviously I agreed. At first I had my work cut out for me, but the more time I spent with her the better she got. She is now one of the sweetest dogs. Still full of energy, but as a result my other dog gets a lot of exercise. Your dog is just a puppy and has probably not had much human social contact, you just have to take time with the dog. Get some of that spray for dogs that you spray in areas you dont want them piss & shite everywhere & take her outside often.

As soon as you get up in the morning take the pup outside. You want her to get use to doing her thing outside. Just take some time with her.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79584 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:18 pm to
Forget whether or not the 6yr is ready for a dog. The OP isn't ready for a dog.
Posted by Iron Lion
Sipsey
Member since Nov 2014
12914 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:18 pm to
Training and teaching a dog has nothing to do with fear. You don't know what you're doing. Dogs are cousins of wolves, they are pack animals. Your family is the dog's pack. You have to be Alpha wolf. It's about your dog trusting you to lead the pack not about the dog fearing you.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:16 pm to
First thing is you should have banged your wife in front of the dog to establish your dominance. Probably beat your son as well and then peed on the dog. Once you've done these things the dog will bend to your will. It knows you could have the pack crush it if it rebelled. Now all you can do is punch the dog in the throat until it obeys you.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27406 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 8:50 pm to
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First thing is you should have banged your wife in front of the dog to establish your dominance. Probably beat your son as well and then peed on the dog. Once you've done these things the dog will bend to your will. It knows you could have the pack crush it if it rebelled. Now all you can do is punch the dog in the throat until it obeys you.


Copied and pasted for my iPhone notes. I'm off Monday. I will implement this plan set by step.
Posted by BreadPudding
Member since Jul 2009
64 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:48 pm to
Rarely comment, but the puppy threads always get my attention:
12 years ago I got a golden retriever puppy with hopes of her becoming a service dog for a family member. It was my choice to use clicker training because it is a kind method of training that even children can learn to use. Works like a charm, B.F. Skinner in action. All you need is a clicker, a couple of training books, and a huge dose of self-control. I think Petsmart still uses this method, but some of their trainers are better than others.

You must be absolutely consistent and never, ever resort to yelling or hitting. No exceptions. Measure out the dog's food for a day with a few treats mixed in and make the dog earn it's keep by following commands.

Accept the fact that a misbehaving dog is your fault. You have failed to communicate with your dog, don't understand its developmental needs, or how to manage its environment effectively. When my puppy and I were at an impasse, I had to stop and make plans for breaking the targeted behavior down into smaller parts. Trainers and reference books help with this.

For example, potty training begins with you taking the puppy outside on a leash at scheduled times after scheduled feedings or crate time. Give the chosen command word when you notice the puppy is about to go, click and reward as soon as he finishes. Once the puppy does his business, release from the leash for play. Control the environment inside so that the puppy is either crated or is carefully monitored. That continues until the puppy is developmentally ready to be successful with bladder control.

If I didn't know what to do about an unwanted behavior, I had to put her in a safe space so I could regroup before resorting to punishment, make a plan, and try again. Usually rewarding strings of rapid fire commands that she already knew made both of us feel better before we moved on to learning the new behavior.

I chose to not use a marker like Cesar Milan's "eh" noise for unwanted behaviors. Redirecting usually worked for me.

We transitioned away from treats and the clicker once she outgrew the rowdy teen stage. I pulled it out again several years later to teach a few hand signals to replace verbal commands.

Research about how to train to a crate correctly until your puppy matures and realize you will have to spend extra time to undo the unwanted behaviors that have developed.

If any family member isn't willing or able to follow through with the training plan, you have to accept total responsibility for training. Even though a total novice, I was able to train our dog to do some complex service dog tasks.

Unfortunately, she developed a health problem and couldn't be a service dog, but she has been a lovely pet.


Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

First thing is you should have banged your wife in front of the dog to establish your dominance. Probably beat your son as well and then peed on the dog. Once you've done these things the dog will bend to your will. It knows you could have the pack crush it if it rebelled. Now all you can do is punch the dog in the throat until it obeys you.

Copied and pasted for my iPhone notes. I'm off Monday. I will implement this plan set by step.


Following up, how did the plan to establish go?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:07 pm to
You don't have a moral obligation to give this dog a happy life. Get rid of it and don't feel at all badly.

Ignore all of these people acting like its a crime to treat a dog like the property it is. You don't hold onto property that you don't want.

Give it to one of these dog worshippers in here who will evidently gladly take on the burden of raising an exceptionally stupid and problematic puppy.

And for the record I'm not saying beat the dog or make it miserable. I'm saying give it away.
Posted by MocklerLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
515 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:09 pm to
Would you give up on your son?
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Ever give up on a puppy?
My wife and I made the largest mistake of our married life.


Contact the foster owner you got it from. They understand that some people just can't handle dogs. They will either take her back or find another foster. Don't punish the dog. And don't get another one. A fish is probably best for you.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5787 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

He goes to daycare during the day for socialization and to wear him out some


I cannot recommend this enough. Take the dog to a puppy playcare place a day or two a week for a couple months and the destruction habits will disappear. It will also help the dogs general attitude as they'll get socialized with other dogs and comfortable with people. The dog will start to expect the regular play time though, so once you stop taking it, you'll have to be willing to spend quality play/exercise time with it or it will start acting out again. Of course, if you weren't willing to do that anyway, you never should have got a dog.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5787 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

uway


Never get a dog.
Posted by BowtieBengal
West Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
87 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:04 pm to
1.go buy a crate and introduce the dog to it.
2. Go to leerburg.com and spend a few hours reading about establishing pack order.
3. Apply what you read there and enjoy a dog that respects you as it's leader and does what/when you want.
4.If unwilling/unable to devote a couple of hours, minimum, daily, to the dog, take the dog back so they can place it in a home that can.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Never get a dog.



Why? Because of my reality-based belief that we shouldn't treat other species as if they have human rights?

I will always own a dog. I will never treat a hopelessly wayward animal as I would treat a troubled child. It doesn't make sense to do that.
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