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Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:05 am to Old Sarge
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He is an incredible preacher, his sermons and speaking is some of the best you’ll ever experience Maybe he signed an incorrect tax return? Believer or not as everybody’s picking up a stone to throw at him, this may shock you, everyone is a sinne
This is all well and good, and I agree everyone is a sinner…BUT, this man is a renowned pastor who of out of a majority of people should know right from wrong and that the time for repentance should have been then, not now; that it is now is as others have said: because he cannot contain what it coming out.
There is still the world of man, and he is accountable to that world as well…
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:06 am to L.A.
Oh, they got a name for the sin…ADULTERY !
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:08 am to Bamafig
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Believe like a Calvanist
Believe God is a liar? No thank you. The only way I could be a Calvinist is if 1 Timothy 2:3-6 and 2 Peter 3:9 were removed from the Bible.
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:10 am to MemphisGuy
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Also, what make Tony Evans a false teacher?
The only people I've ever herd call Evans a false teacher were Calvinists because he believes in free will and dispensationalism.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:22 am to L.A.
I am so done with "evangelical" radio style protestantism. It's done a lot of harm.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:24 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:While dispensationalism is really dumb, it doesn't cross into the "false teacher" category. Those "Calvinists" are quite uncharitable with their definitions.
The only people I've ever herd call Evans a false teacher were Calvinists because he believes in free will and dispensationalism.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:26 am to L.A.
Don King got a haircut?
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:41 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:I'm a Calvinist in name, I guess. I've softened on it a lot. I could definitely work my way around these verses intellectually. But what's the point? I've come to realize that Christianity is more heart than head. More actions than what goes on between the ears.
Believe God is a liar? No thank you. The only way I could be a Calvinist is if 1 Timothy 2:3-6 and 2 Peter 3:9 were removed from the Bible.
I continue to be a Protestant, but one that is increasingly unhappy with most other Protestants. I lament the division and yearn for ecuminism.
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 10:46 am
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:48 am to DocYatesVA
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I assure you God is real, and the newsfeed have little to do with him. The greatest lie the devil has ever perpetuated is that God is not real and you have nothing to fear.
What if God is the Devil and the Devil is God? Wouldn't that be the greatest lie ever told? For without God there is no Devil. Why would the Devil try to convince you God doesn't exist in that case? Doesn't seem to fall in line with the "intelligence" of a being set to deceive the world? Doesn't the premise of God depend on fearing him? Yet those that believe also believe they have nothing to fear. But God. Why should you fear the one that promises salvation? They don't fear God. They fear the Devil and the hell that comes with him. Those that abstain fear neither. Fear is a human concept not God's or the Devil's.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:26 am to L.A.
Dang. I love Tony Evans, and his ministry has meant alot to me in my walk as a Christian man. I hope whatever this is isn't something huge that will tear down his entire ministry.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:52 am to sta4ever
quote:Paul was an observant and righteous (according to the Law) Jew, a Pharisee. He did hold everyone’s coats while they stoned Stephen and persecuted Christ’s Church. But those were past sins. Tony Evan’s unnamed sin is post conversion and not done in ignorance. I applaud his acceptance of the consequences and Church discipline. I’m guessing he’s reluctant to smear someone he may have abused through his position in Church. He might be doing a decent thing. But he absolutely needed to resign.
Good thing Paul didn’t have to step as a spreader of Christ’s message, because of his past.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 10:24 am to Mr. Misanthrope
I just appreciate this conversation remaining civil and hopefully a little bit enlightening to some.
Thanks to the admins for letting it continue. Maintaining a respectful conversation is the only way it won’t get “whacked.”
Thanks to the admins for letting it continue. Maintaining a respectful conversation is the only way it won’t get “whacked.”
Posted on 6/12/24 at 10:38 am to sparkinator
I have know him and his family since I was a kid.
I am sadden to see this. He is a great guy and great speaker.
I am seeing a lot stones being thrown here. Maybe this board needs to look at their life and not cast stones.
I am sadden to see this. He is a great guy and great speaker.
I am seeing a lot stones being thrown here. Maybe this board needs to look at their life and not cast stones.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:00 am to lsufanva
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What if God is the Devil and the Devil is God?
That's straight up a logical fallacy.
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For without God there is no Devil.
I suppose so.
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Why would the Devil try to convince you God doesn't exist in that case?
Makes it easier to convince a person to do something when you tell them that there isn't somebody seeing you do it. People become way of God because they know that he sees their actions all the time, hence why people don't do stuff that they would do if there wasn't an omnipotent being.
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Doesn't the premise of God depend on fearing him?
Sure, if you think about it that way.
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Why should you fear the one that promises salvation?
Because on the path to salvation, there is temptation. If you resist temptation, you will see salvation.
I would suggest you read Five Proofs of the Existence of God by Edward Feser, they would really clear your doubts.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:14 am to ThisisAggieland
Also Evidence that demands a Vetdict by Josh McDowell.
And Daniel in the Crtics den.
And Daniel in the Crtics den.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:13 pm to sparkinator
quote:Cringe. That whole lot just seem so unbelievably self important. It oozes from their sweaty faces. They're the show and they absolutely love it.
Adrian Rogers was the best preacher I’ve ever heard. Hands down. No equal. Head and shoulders above the rest.
Add this beauty to the list.
They're all the same.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:18 pm to lsufanva
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Doesn't the premise of God depend on fearing him? Yet those that believe also believe they have nothing to fear. But God. Why should you fear the one that promises salvation? They don't fear God. They fear the Devil and the hell that comes with him. Those that abstain fear neither. Fear is a human concept not God's or the Devil's.
quote:Proverbs 1:7 (KJV)
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:21 pm to lsufanva
quote:You're assuming one english definition of the word "fear" and reading the bible with a modern western mind. It's not that easy.
Doesn't the premise of God depend on fearing him? Yet those that believe also believe they have nothing to fear. But God. Why should you fear the one that promises salvation? They don't fear God. They fear the Devil and the hell that comes with him. Those that abstain fear neither. Fear is a human concept not God's or the Devil's.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:54 pm to bayoubengals88
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I am so done with "evangelical" radio style protestantism. It's done a lot of harm.
I think that the “celebritization” of Christian pastors, teachers, and authors has been detrimental to the faith, especially in the US. These men and women sell a lot of books and pack in the conferences, but when they fall, it has an exponentially bad impact.
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