re: EU officials accuse US of profiting from the war in Ukraine

You done did it now. The self perceived smartest person in every room is about to go on a rampage

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There's always blowback. This money isn't being given to Ukraine. It's a loan. That means we will own Ukraine, push them around to do whatever we say, and install into power whoever we say. If you think that this won't be a massive point of contention in the future that's going to cause some major problems, then I don't know what to tell you. Grow up and stop thinking like a 4th grader

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not thinking like a 4th grader, if it was up to me we wouldnt even be spending the money.

but the risk of blowback wouldnt have been much greater had we allowed russia just to take what they wanted...agree or disagree?

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You done did it now. The self perceived smartest person in every room is about to go on a rampage

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wtf? trust me im not the smartest person in the room but i am one of the ones that doenst just go with the constant flow and actually has principles

And all these libtards with the Ukraine flag in their Twitter handles.

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It’s almost like we should not have helped overthrow their democratically elected government in 2014.

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Pretty ruthless. But the bad part is if the seizing of their assets motivates the Chinese, Indians, Russian, and Saudis to uncouple from the American and European dominated political and economic systems that allowed for the unilateral seizure of Russian assets.

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If we don't terrorize the rest of the world into using the petrodollar, our economy will be underwater overnight.

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Our role, if any, should have been in the background. This is a European problem that should be handled by European countries. This is their territory and they will see the effects of these actions far more than we will.

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agree 10000%, me saying so far that teh ROI has been good when you factor in this is getting nato to spend the required gdp(something trump was wrongly crucified for trying to make happen) really doesnt disagree with this at all.

i dont understnd why this is so hard for so many to understand.....you dont have to agree with something for it to be a good investment.

but you still didnt answer my question...do you agree blowback would have been worse if we would have let russia go in undettered? would a lot more innocent ukrainian citizens not been killed?

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This was nothing more than an opportunity taken by the US to keep their money laundering scheme sealed for the next decade and possibly beyond while also giving credence to their red scare campaign over the last 6 years.

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1st- if this is so prevelant then why didnt trump blow the lid off of it?

2nd- wont your assertion depend on who is in congress and is president?

now im not saying there wasnt corruption out the arse and so much other bullshite because its pretty much a fact that it was. but that same shite is happening all over the globe and lets not act like it wasnt happening in russia too.

as far as red scare campaign...umm pretty sure that shite aint gonna work after so many have seen how our 70/80s tech is whipping Russia's arse.

LOL the EU can get wrecked.

Bunch of whining leeches: they ought to be thankful for what we give them.

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agree 10000%, me saying so far that teh ROI has been good when you factor in this is getting nato to spend the required gdp(something trump was wrongly crucified for trying to make happen) really doesnt disagree with this at all.

i dont understnd why this is so hard for so many to understand.....you dont have to agree with something for it to be a good investment.

but you still didnt answer my question...do you agree blowback would have been worse if we would have let russia go in undettered? would a lot more innocent ukrainian citizens not been killed?

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Russia would not have marched in undettered. But, yes, I think things would have been better for everyone if the US was not involved in this or overthrowing the Ukrainian government in 2013/2014.

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1st- if this is so prevelant then why didnt trump blow the lid off of it?

2nd- wont your assertion depend on who is in congress and is president?

now im not saying there wasnt corruption out the arse and so much other bullshite because its pretty much a fact that it was. but that same shite is happening all over the globe and lets not act like it wasnt happening in russia too.

as far as red scare campaign...umm pretty sure that shite aint gonna work after so many have seen how our 70/80s tech is whipping Russia's arse.

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You're going to see a level of corruption orders of magnitude greater than pre-2022 levels, especially during rebuilding efforts. We're going to put Ukraine on the hook for far more money than they'll ever be able to repay.

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and?

but question is should russia not pay? am i wrong or did they not invade?

we tried your frickign way in 2014 and let them have crimea....it didnt work. it never does.

so unless you want to go completely isolationist....then it was a good move to hurt russia big time, not lose american lives and make china think twice before they start rattlign cages.


your hate for democrats is clouding your logical thinking.

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Ah yes, the "I'm anti war in Ukraine, but we need to be at war in Ukraine" retard opines again

Clown shoes.

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Russia would not have marched in undettered. But, yes, I think things would have been better for everyone if the US was not involved in this or overthrowing the Ukrainian government in 2013/2014

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agree 100% but that didnt answer my question.

but also realize that russia essentially put that governement in place as anti-EU.

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You're going to see a level of corruption orders of magnitude greater than pre-2022 levels, especially during rebuilding efforts. We're going to put Ukraine on the hook for far more money than they'll ever be able to repay.

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na we will take most from russia imo. will be massive corruption but their already was.

in the end atleast in my view, this is abotu spending a small % of out defense budget to acchomplish 3 things

1) save as many ukrainian lives as possible/show russia it cant just do what it wants

2) destroy russian militarialy

3) get the rest of nato to spend the required %

the corruption is just statud quo for me. shite was happening, is happening and will continue to happen in eastern europe and South america no matter if this war happened or not. only way to change that is the election booth, unfortunately there are shite tons of brain dead idiots who do not research things and do whatever their bubble on twitter says to do. that goes for both sides


we may disagree a tad(prolly agree about 99%+ of stuff) but atleast you can have an intelligent conversation