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re: Etowah Co. Alabama Sheriff Made $750k
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:33 pm to White Roach
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:33 pm to White Roach
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This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 11:34 pm
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:34 pm to MorbidTheClown
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i mean if he's keeping crime under control...i'm ok with it.
Why isn’t the excess returned to the taxpayers? Getting to put it in his pocket is a huge conflict of interest.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:45 pm to Hoyt
Entrekin has been corrupt since he was a Deputy.So,nothing he's accused of surprises me. 
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:59 pm to Hoyt
Seems like a smart ole baw to me.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:07 pm to yellowfin
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No, that's not how it works at all
If that's not how it works at all, why have some of these Sheriff's in rural areas built oversized jails?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:09 pm to White Roach
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This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:19 pm to tLSU
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Sheriffs aren't personally keeping the excess. It's used to fund the office and operations, sure. The LA Legislative Auditor looks at every dime.
When the law refers to "the Sheriff" such as setting a revenue Stream, it's referring to him in his official capacity....which is what many refer to as "the Sheriff's Office".
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying the issue.
But aren't there parishes in LA that have built larger than necessary jails with the intention of filling them w/ state prisoners and supplementing their budgets by spending less than $24/day per state inmate? It seems like I just read about a relatively new facility built to hold ~600 that's only half full. The Sheriff is pissed at the state for reducing LA's prison population.
A few years ago there was a large series of articles in the T-P about the prison system in LA. One of the things they pointed out was that a lifer at a state penitentiary had access to a variety of academic and vocational classes, even if they were unlikely to ever get out. A short timer being housed at a parish jail was offered next to nothing to improve his odds of success in society when he or she got out. Providing those programs was a disincentive to the local Sheriff because it came out of the $24/day his office was being paid by the state.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:21 pm to Hoyt
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Many Alabama sheriffs contend that the practice of keeping "excess" inmate-feeding funds for themselves is legal under a state law passed before World War II. Yet in a number of counties including Jefferson and Montgomery, any money allocated to sheriffs for feeding inmates that is not used for that purpose is instead turned over to the county government.
CRAZY.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:36 pm to White Roach
There are pros and cons to having State inmates at local facilities. If one has the space, why not let the state pay you to hold its sentenced inmates? This defrays the Parish's fixed jailing costs which are there despite the number of inmates such as utilities, the majority of jail staff,medical staff, etc. Also, many inmates would prefer to be housed in or close to their home city so that family and friends can visit. Several parishes now have the DOC reentry and work release programs at the local jails, and that's a solid way to gain employment and get connected with the community as you transition out.
With respect to DOC programs at the state facilities, sure, they have them. If you talk to any inmate, they're taking those to get time knocked off of their sentences, not to actually get a benefit. The reality is that they're not run very well (though they're getting better) so it's not like there's some tremendous loss by not being there.
Correctional programming can't be applied with a shotgun or one size fits all approach. It needs to be targeted at those at a high risk of reoffending, and given in the appropriate "dosage" and for a predetermined period of time. Studies have shown that giving intense programming to those who were at low/moderate recidicism risk actually increases their risk of offending. Louisiana is slowly getting it in the right direction, but it's far off.
Honestly, the local reentry programs are the best thing we have going right now. You go back to your local jail for the last 18-36 months of your sentence, you get job training, religious programming, substance abuse treatment, connections with interested employers, frequent meetings with family, a state ID, social security card, and other things you need to get a job. If you complete it, you get 6 months off. I've seen how truly passionate those guys are to be a part of it, and many have succeeded after getting out. Connecting with positive sources in tbe community you're returning to is the biggest factor, in my opinion.
With respect to DOC programs at the state facilities, sure, they have them. If you talk to any inmate, they're taking those to get time knocked off of their sentences, not to actually get a benefit. The reality is that they're not run very well (though they're getting better) so it's not like there's some tremendous loss by not being there.
Correctional programming can't be applied with a shotgun or one size fits all approach. It needs to be targeted at those at a high risk of reoffending, and given in the appropriate "dosage" and for a predetermined period of time. Studies have shown that giving intense programming to those who were at low/moderate recidicism risk actually increases their risk of offending. Louisiana is slowly getting it in the right direction, but it's far off.
Honestly, the local reentry programs are the best thing we have going right now. You go back to your local jail for the last 18-36 months of your sentence, you get job training, religious programming, substance abuse treatment, connections with interested employers, frequent meetings with family, a state ID, social security card, and other things you need to get a job. If you complete it, you get 6 months off. I've seen how truly passionate those guys are to be a part of it, and many have succeeded after getting out. Connecting with positive sources in tbe community you're returning to is the biggest factor, in my opinion.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:49 pm to tLSU
Interesting. I'm glad to see the situation is improving to some degree.
My primary beef with "The War On Drugs" was that addicts were being locked up for relatively minor offenses, but given no/minimal treatment. I'm glad that is changing. I know there are diversion programs available to some offenders now.
I'm a big fan of Chief Tim Lentz of Covington PD. He helped get the Operation Angel program started in St Tammany and they've had some good success stories. If you're not familiar with it, basically an addict can go to the cops for help getting placed in a residential treatment program. If you get yourself arrested, you still go to jail. But if you want help, the police will help you find it. I think it makes a lot of sense and I'm glad Lentz got it going locally.
My primary beef with "The War On Drugs" was that addicts were being locked up for relatively minor offenses, but given no/minimal treatment. I'm glad that is changing. I know there are diversion programs available to some offenders now.
I'm a big fan of Chief Tim Lentz of Covington PD. He helped get the Operation Angel program started in St Tammany and they've had some good success stories. If you're not familiar with it, basically an addict can go to the cops for help getting placed in a residential treatment program. If you get yourself arrested, you still go to jail. But if you want help, the police will help you find it. I think it makes a lot of sense and I'm glad Lentz got it going locally.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:04 pm to White Roach
Yea you'll start seeing that kind of stuff a lot more, I expect.
Jimmy LeBlanc has pushed things in the right direction at the state level. The problem with what you discussed, or prison treatment, is that it's very expensive to do anything meaningful. It's also difficult to make people realize that criminals are going to reoffend 50% of the time even with treatment, but that's better than 66-70% without and it's a tremendous social and fiscal cost savings.
Jimmy LeBlanc has pushed things in the right direction at the state level. The problem with what you discussed, or prison treatment, is that it's very expensive to do anything meaningful. It's also difficult to make people realize that criminals are going to reoffend 50% of the time even with treatment, but that's better than 66-70% without and it's a tremendous social and fiscal cost savings.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:10 pm to kywildcatfanone
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For their personal use? Unethical and the laws need to change. Those inmate feeding funds are tax dollars, not bonuses.
The sheriffs are also personally liable for any shortfalls.
When the former sheriff of Etowah Co. died, the fund went to his estate in accordance with the current law. The current sheriff had to pay $150,000 out of his own pocket to cover the shortfall.
It reads like a good ol' boy system now, but the law dates back to a time during the depression when the sheriff's wife was usually responsible for feeding the people in the local lockup.
It needs to change to reflect current reality.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:12 pm to tidalmouse
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Entrekin has been corrupt since he was a Deputy.So,nothing he's accused of surprises me
He may be corrupt, but he's not accused of anything here other than abiding by the antiquated law, which is very specific.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:12 pm to Hoyt
This kind of stuff is why I always chuckle when somebody tells me the more local a government is the better it is.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:35 pm to Hoyt
This is why prisoners in county lock ups get 2 pieces of white bread and maybe some baloney as a meal. The fricking sheriffs pocket state provided funds. Thats been happening for years. Nobody cares if prisoners are given decent food...they are prisoners. Thats been happening in Alabama and throughout the south for YEARS.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:15 am to Hoyt
it's a dirtbag and shitty thing to do - but he will get away with it - there is nothing in the law that says he cannot do what he is doing.
he will be likely be removed from office but will never be brought up on charges.
like someone else said - change the law if you don't want something like that happening.
he will be likely be removed from office but will never be brought up on charges.
like someone else said - change the law if you don't want something like that happening.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 7:25 am to White Roach
Sounds like he's stealing tax dollars and needs to be prosecuted. If the law allows him to personally keep tax funds for personal gain, the laws need to change ASAP.
If they don't need the money for food, then either give it back, or it needs to go into some kind of infrastructure fund, not into the sheriff's pockets.
If they don't need the money for food, then either give it back, or it needs to go into some kind of infrastructure fund, not into the sheriff's pockets.
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