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re: Engineers/Construction Workers?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:24 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:24 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Regardless, the book smart engineering guys get the big $$$. 
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:25 am to Croacka
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i always cringed when i saw GPA listed on a job application,
Same here. I've gotten a few interviews at places where I didn't meet the minimum GPA, but never more than that.
Experience isn't a good excuse for it either. I have tons of experience for a student and a low GPA, but there's really no reason I couldn't have a high one. There was always time to study.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:25 am to PapaPogey
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Regardless, the book smart engineering guys get the big $$$.
Starting out, sure. But after that first job, the people that bust arse are the ones that move up.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:26 am to PapaPogey
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the book smart engineering guys get the big $$$.
They start out with the big money. After the first 3 years it's a free for all.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:26 am to Displaced
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all you gotta do is get that first job though, then no one gives a shite what your gpa was anymore.
i started a new job not long ago without ever giving them a resume or anything
they gave me some new hire paperwork to fill out and gpa was listed on one of the forms....i double checked to make sure my offer letter was signed
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:27 am to PapaPogey
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We all need guidance in some way, so put your fricking ego aside and point us in the right direction.
100% agree.
I am not an engineer or construction worker...I am probably the worst of all...an architect.
While I was in school, I worked for a construction company as a laborer during the summer and winter breaks and worked part time for a plumbing company. The things I learned from both jobs GREATLY helped me both in school and after graduating. However, the thing that frustrated me the most about the industry was after all the school and work experience I still felt like I was having to learn a foreign language. Fortunately, I had great architects willing to continue to mentor and teach me, and I was honest with the engineers and contractors (when I was in the field) and said I knew I could not tell them anything they didn't know about their professions. I asked if they see issues let's talk about them and let them explain to me the best way for them to do their job so the end product still looks like the "picture" on the paper. As time goes on, you pick up on those things and carry them into the next job. That humility and willingness to learn, I think, has helped tremendously.
Of course, NONE of it is possible without the experienced guys being willing to teach.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:27 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yall keep saying you have a ton of experience and I'm wondering like what? Didn't you work on a farm and in a grocery store before the last year or so? In that case, I have a ton of experience, but nothing more than problem solving and people skills relate to my career choice.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:27 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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but there's really no reason I couldn't have a high one.
same here
the couple times i was asked about it, i was honest
i told them i was a poor student and it took me a while to get my priorities right.....some overlooked it, some couldnt
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:30 am to PapaPogey
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like what?
Really good internships and co-ops
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:31 am to Croacka
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i told them i was a poor student and it took me a while to get my priorities right
I just kinda hope they don't bring it up
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:31 am to FootballNostradamus
engineers are pretty stupid in general
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:31 am to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
I hope you stubb a toe today a-hole
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:35 am to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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engineers are pretty stupid in general
What are you studying?Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:36 am to LNCHBOX
I hope he says law
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:37 am to PapaPogey
Isn't he the guy that like Ironbat can't get laid or make friends?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:40 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:41 am to FootballNostradamus
As others have said, a lot of it has to do with work ethic, and or drive to get better.
Another factor is having a really good mentor that is open to helping a younger guy. That doesn't necessarily mean telling him what to do and how to do it, sometimes you just have to give them something with little explanation and put their feet to the fire to see how they react. Most younger guys coming out of college have had constrictions and guidelines on what to do and when to do it. When they come back with questions because they don't know you can use it as a teaching opportunity.
The younger guy being able to accept constructive criticism is a good quality that I don't think a lot of people have.
I graduated LSU with a CM degree with basically no field experience, was hired right away and was sent to a jobsite with a Project Manager who has worked with me a lot and pushed me to think for myself and get better at what I do. He's taken me to many high level meetings to watch how to interact with clients and know when to speak your mind and when to take your beatings.
TL;DR
It takes an individual who wants to get better at what he does and someone to push him to get there.
Another factor is having a really good mentor that is open to helping a younger guy. That doesn't necessarily mean telling him what to do and how to do it, sometimes you just have to give them something with little explanation and put their feet to the fire to see how they react. Most younger guys coming out of college have had constrictions and guidelines on what to do and when to do it. When they come back with questions because they don't know you can use it as a teaching opportunity.
The younger guy being able to accept constructive criticism is a good quality that I don't think a lot of people have.
I graduated LSU with a CM degree with basically no field experience, was hired right away and was sent to a jobsite with a Project Manager who has worked with me a lot and pushed me to think for myself and get better at what I do. He's taken me to many high level meetings to watch how to interact with clients and know when to speak your mind and when to take your beatings.
TL;DR
It takes an individual who wants to get better at what he does and someone to push him to get there.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:46 am to Dam Guide
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I am inbetween the old and new right now. Still got a lot to learn, but can function on my own.
It's a mixture of things for why the new crop has this attitude.
1. Generational thing, the millenials don't want to work at all, the older generation doesn't want to be at home as you can see by how those fricks won't retire even though some of them are losing money by continuing to work instead of taking their old pension systems at some companies.
2. College is not the professional environment it once was, old engineers acted like engineers from day 1 in college. That attitude carried over to the workforce. Now it is sweatpants and t-shirts...
3. Old engineers built the plants and equipment. They got to learn the equipment before it was in service. Combine that with the severe lack of regulation that they had in their day, they got to tinker around and even screw up and trip something off without much consequence or blow back unless they destroyed something. Kids today don't get that same type of experience. Learning hands on is a much more stressful task, fear of failure is high.
4. Old engineers aren't the best teachers, some will even go out of their way to not help out the new crop. This goes back to the generational differences. A lot of them want to protect their turf and not help out the new guy they view as a replacement that is putting them to pasture.
This is such an insightful post. I've never thought about 2, but you have a point--I think we are able to mess around and aren't held accountable enough in school now.
I know at LSU, the faculty is trying to make some curriculum changes. One thing I strongly suggested is make manufacturing processes more about how to design something so that a) it is physically possible to machine/build and b) you have everything shown on a drawing so that you can just send it to a machinist and have it done, no questions asked (i.e. all dimensions, tolerances, surface finishes, etc.). This would go a long way because even now in senior design, students can't visualize how things are made and often bring designs to the shop that aren't physically possible.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:49 am to PapaPogey
Well at the very least, he probably shouldn't be calling people stupid after starting this thread. What are some easy classes I can take at LSU over the summer to boost my GPA?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:53 am to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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engineers are pretty stupid in general
I know, right?
All those bridges and rockets and elevators and skyscrapers-just throw that crap up there, it'll stay.
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