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re: Elon Musk's Neuralink (Brain/Computer Interface) Presentation and Timeframe human trials

Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:48 am to
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:48 am to
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It's basically a brain/CPU interface that will allow your brain to instantly access networks without the bottleneck of having use your hands to control a device.

In other words, instant access to the internet


I hope it has built in ad blocker.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:17 pm to
Elon needs to the lay off the...whatever the hell he's doing to himself.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:39 pm to
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This product and company will dwindle into the night just like Solar City and the Boring Company. This guy is embarrassing himself.
Aren't you the guy who told me there was no more demand for Teslas?

And after about the 3rd time you said something false that I called you on with links, you shuffled off and stopped replying.

But hey, we should definitely trust you on all things Elon Musk companies!!!
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17180 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:43 pm to
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Musk gave a big presentation of Neuralink’s research Tuesday night, though he said that it wasn’t simply for hype.


Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11626 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:59 pm to
I bumped that thread, yesterday. They just cut the price of the most decked out Model 3 by 10%.

Price - lower
Quantity Demanded - same
Demand - lower

He's riding price down the demand curve and you think that means high demand? They have ran through their backlog of orders and ZEV credits and every new market they hit growth cannot be sustained because non-Californians do not accept that low level quality of a vehicle and service so they can virtue signal.

Are you retarded?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6530 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Which runs the risk of creating dementia cases like we have never seen Think about it - retrieving unlearned data with no understanding or time to cultivate that knowledge has been proven to reduce brain cognition and the ability to focus over time. The neuro-pathways to create information, knowledge, memories, and concepts would atrophy. We might know everything and be the most retarded generation in history


Thats not how any of this works.
Dementia surely isn’t caused my increasing neural connectivity. This is likely the opposite.

You cannot retrieve unlearned data, idk what that is called but retrieval refers to recalling a stored memory.
Neuro pathways do not create memories/info. They are created as you learn/develop new info/memories/behaviors/concepts. Atrophy occurs when you are losing a memory trace due to non-use of info.

My understanding of the presentation was that it would essentially add pipelines that can communicate with and amplifies neuron signals. They talked about restoring function for upper motor neuron type problems so it seems like the goal is increasing communication and connectivity. Potentially could help relay signals that damaged brain regions were responsible for sending. very very impressive and exciting concept.

The surgery imaging and avoiding blood vessels is legit. But hard pass to being awake during implantation, I want to be asleep for brain surgery if possible.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8257 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 1:23 pm to
Musk may or may not be responsible for successfully launching this product but brain/computer interfaces will likely be very commonplace in the next 25 years especially for those with medical needs. He is definitely not the only one working on this technology
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59171 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Thats not how any of this works.
Dementia surely isn’t caused my increasing neural connectivity. This is likely the opposite.


I don't think you understand what I am saying at all.

The introduction of the calculator did what to overall mind math?

The introduction of information at our fingertips and spoon-fed opinions did what for our critical thinking?

If we integrate essentially all information directly into our brains - all the internet, we end up not needing to use the parts of our brains required to gain and maintain knowledge at a rate we haven't seen before.

One of the keys to staving off dementia is to continue to use our brains now and learn new things as we get old - always learning new things.

For a large segment of society, having the information already "pre-loaded" at all times would discourage the process of actually expanding their brains leading to increased chances of dementia later.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 1:49 pm to
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Are you retarded?
Says the guy who says there was no demand, Tesla loses money on every car they sell, and they have terrible resale value.


In that bumped thread, did you reply to the links I posted regarding resale value that made you run away from that original thread? Or did you just keep ignoring them?

Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18011 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 2:05 pm to
Having read some of the negative comments regarding success of the idea and concept..
This is happening. Nothing will stop it. It will be instrumental in the upcoming moment of singularity.

I'm speaking on the morality or probable negative consequences to human existence as we know it, only on the absolute certainty this is coming. We can only hope to try and contain as long as possible. There will come the day, when containment will no longer be possible.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66458 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
Musk is about to get another big check from the US government. Dude is a master at that

Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11626 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 2:45 pm to
Do you know what demand is? They have lowered pricing more than half a dozen times since December. That is not an indication of high demand. You are a complete lunatic. Do you know how to read financial data?
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 3:11 pm to
Doesnt that invalid from Xmen use something similar to try and destroy the planet? Same thing with Big Hero 6

Damn kids got me watching too many of their movies over here sounding like a nerd
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8257 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 3:16 pm to
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The introduction of information at our fingertips and spoon-fed opinions did what for our critical thinking?


Its a double edged sword imo but its an interesting discussion.

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If we integrate essentially all information directly into our brains - all the internet, we end up not needing to use the parts of our brains required to gain and maintain knowledge at a rate we haven't seen before. One of the keys to staving off dementia is to continue to use our brains now and learn new things as we get old - always learning new things. For a large segment of society, having the information already "pre-loaded" at all times would discourage the process of actually expanding their brains leading to increased chances of dementia later.


Isnt anybody that carries a smartphone at this point already. Like Musk said smartphones pretty much make us cyborgs now. This tech would allow quicker access but as far as it leading to dementia IDK. When I pick up my phone to learn how the rings of Saturn formed while waiting for a dental appt am I not learning something new and exercising my brain as opposed just sitting there thinking about eating another Popeyes chicken sandwich.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 3:22 pm to
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You are a complete lunatic
Says the guy who swears Teslas have horrible resale value and lose money on EVERY car they sell.

I don't know why it's so difficult, you said stuff that was wrong, it was factually wrong. I don't know what else to tell you if you won't simply acknowledge the obvious...that you said a lot of wrong shite.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11626 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 4:11 pm to
I can't remember but I'm guessing you provided a link about the S. I've already told you nobody cares about the S's resale value, they're decent cars.

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Says the guy who swears Teslas have horrible resale value and lose money on EVERY car they sell.


So you take Tesla's own gross margin at face value. Can't make this up, folks

You must be adding the additional $200K that the car's value will increase once it's fully autonomous and it will make money for you
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9135 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 4:39 pm to
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Elon Musk


This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 4:40 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 4:51 pm to
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I can't remember but I'm guessing you provided a link about the S
And you're wrong, I provided a link about all 3

The "I can't remember" is when you shuffled away because you saw I was right that all 3 vehicles and Tesla, as a whole, had the best resale value out there, but you went off on me stating I was soooooo incorrect.

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I've already told you nobody cares about the S's resale value
What does that even mean? They have great resale value. Your argument as to why they don't is that "no one cares" legit makes zero sense whatsoever.

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So you take Tesla's own gross margin at face value. Can't make this up, folks
I've now noticed that anything factual you don't like, you just call it a lie or make things up. Tesla has great resale value...not true because nobody cares!!! Tesla doesn't actually lose money every vehicle they sell...NOT TRUE, not because you have proof but just because, right?


Your "just cause I think so" excuses with no proof whatsoever is getting a bit tired, especially when I'm providing factual proof to debunk everything you say.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3978 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 5:47 pm to
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When I pick up my phone to learn how the rings of Saturn formed while waiting for a dental appt am I not learning something new and exercising my brain


Right because this is exactly how most people use their smart phones
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11626 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 5:58 pm to
Model S sales are not growing and are getting canabalized by the 3 and the ASP is dropping significantly. It also doesn't drive the valuation in any meaningful way. So it makes a ton of sense.

You're unhinged. You should buy up a few thousand shares and tell me how funny it is in 3 years. You're dumbassery is "ramping exponentially"
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