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re: Electricians -- Circuit stopped working, breaker not tripped

Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24963 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:37 pm to
If not a gfci probably a bad breaker. Had the same problem a few years back. Just cut main power and replace the breaker.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67015 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:41 pm to
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Back stabbed outlets are the devil.


Yep, I have had more than one break or come loose in my house since I have lived here.

I am convinced the electrician that wired my house used no more than $10 it materials to wire the entire house and had no idea how to install it all.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31201 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:06 pm to
One should never find back stabbed outlets on 20a circuits (you can't backstab 12g wire on a standard 15a duplex outlet). So most modern homes won't have back stabbed outlets.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25357 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:06 pm to
i know nothing about electricity, etc. But last week I had a circuit that kept throwing the breaker. Called an electrician and he found something above the light itself that helps prevents overheating. Anyways, it had a wire burned out.Changed it and everything works now. thats all i know...
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:38 pm to
why is this bad advice? It probably isn't the most efficient way to find the problem, but if you kill the main going into the panel then you won't hurt yourself doing what I've described.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:01 pm to
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One should never find back stabbed outlets on 20a circuits (you can't backstab 12g wire on a standard 15a duplex outlet). So most modern homes won't have back stabbed outlets.




After the 2016 flood, I replaced my beige outlets with white ones. Every single one was backstabbed, including 20a circuits. Had to cut some of the wires because they were so far jammed in there. Some of them broke off anyway. Home was built in the 80s. The microwave outlet was one I did not replace because it's inside a cabinet.

Update: Checked both the laundry switch and outlet wiring, and both appeared fine. But with the switch hanging out of the wall, I turned the breaker back on, and everything worked. Wiggled the switch a little, and the lights turned off again. So, either the laundry room light switch went bad in the middle of me microwaving food, or I did a shitty job wiring the switch and it decided to show evidence of that after nearly a year. Both possibilities seem odd.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:10 pm to
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breaker not tripped
I can't stress this enough. You cannot always tell with the eye if a breaker is tripped or not. Must confirm a different way or reset.


As said, loose wire or breaker was tripped.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21820 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:47 am to
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why is this bad advice? It probably isn't the most efficient way to find the problem, but if you kill the main going into the panel then you won't hurt yourself doing what I've described
Even with the main off, there are still areas of the panel that are still live (unless your main is at your meter). I don't think some people realize that. If anyone is thinking of working on their panel, they need to do some serious research on their specific panel first.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4119 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:32 pm to
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One should never find back stabbed outlets on 20a circuits (you can't backstab 12g wire on a standard 15a duplex outlet). So most modern homes won't have back stabbed outlets.



Most modern homes do not have 20a receptacle circuits, especially spec homes.
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