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re: El Paso Walmart mass shooting - now 22 dead

Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
You didn’t debate at all, man. You asked questions and then hid behind them. That’s not a discussion.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38298 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
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What it devolves into is the right to bear arms crowd attacks anyone that doesn’t have a viewpoint that perfectly aligns with theirs.
"shall not be infringed"

This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Sanfordhog
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2016
479 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:12 pm to
Ok. The shooter is favoring Trumps stance on immigrants.

Probably out of context?:

“Let me just tell you, I've had horrible rulings, I've been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I'm building a wall, OK? I'm building a wall. I am going to do very well with the Hispanics, the Mexicans.”

Shooter would probably agree with what Trump said and hasn’t disputed comment once asked:

Donald went on, “Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not something they can control. … Don’t you agree?”

LINK
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:13 pm to
Jesus. Quote it instead of paraphrasing.

quote:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


See the part about the militia?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38417 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:14 pm to
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You didn’t debate at all, man. You asked questions and then hid behind them. That’s not a discussion.


I asked you a series of questions... that you didn’t answer... how can we have a discussion if you refused to answer the questions?

I mean, we can try again if you want...
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53506 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

See the part about the militia?

Which would be formed by the people
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38298 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

paraphrasing.
That's a direct quote.

lol at context suddenly mattering to you guys.

eta- you got me on shall/will, though. I did frick that up.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:16 pm to
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Posted by Message
HailHailtoMichigan!


quote:

Dude.....the vast majority of all shootings are done with handguns



It doesn't get more depraved and duplicitous than posters like this.

You have to have no morals at all to not make the connection between mass killings like today and rifles vs handguns. This is not about every day crime. This is about the insanity that is inflicted on us almost weekly. Vegas, Orlando, Newton, this week, last week, on and on and on.

People that have the lack of character to makes this statement have nothing to say. Just shallow empty sacks of flesh. Which is all proven by post history of all the same gobsmacked sycophants.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:16 pm to
I mean, you can address the issue at hand if you want. Or you can hide behind your question about various mental illnesses and who decides how to determine who the truly mentally ill are. Your choice.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42241 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

“Let me just tell you, I've had horrible rulings, I've been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I'm building a wall, OK? I'm building a wall. I am going to do very well with the Hispanics, the Mexicans.”



Is it outside the realm of possibility that a democrat, Mexican-American judge might hold a grudge against someone that wants to build a wall to keep illegal immigrants from entering via Mexico? How is that racist? It would be like a judge that owns a bunch of Coca Cola stock presiding over a court case involving Pepsi.

Got a link to the “lazy blacks” quote?
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 11:24 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30033 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:17 pm to
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Social. Media. Is. Cancer.



This and the media. I feel like the constant pushing of narratives is creating more monsters.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63253 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Why does it happen so often in this country? Our country? By our own people?
Because it's silly to compare a country as large, populous and diverse as the US to other countries in the world.

You'd have us compare countries... take Finland as an example. It's an entire coutnry! They don't have mass shootings all the time....

Well, Finland's population is 5.5 million. The population of NY CITY... is by itself... 8.6 million.

So, basically, your comparing "countries" against populations that don't equal one US state. In some cases not even to one US CITY.

Absolutely silly to make that comparison.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Which would be formed by the people


And which we haven’t had in this country for how many years? Unless you want to call the confederacy a militia of sorts.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38417 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

mean, you can address the issue at hand if you want.


I did. People should place their own defense in their own hands. Be responsible for yourself.

quote:

Or you can hide behind your question about various mental illnesses and who decides how to determine who the truly mentally ill are. Your choice.


You were the one who said we need to place restrictions on mental health. I asked you questions on how it would be implemented.you floundered around and avoided the questions because you’re a baby back bitch who has zero debate skills.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:19 pm to
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Are you obtuse. India has a billion more people than the US. Of course the total number of murders is higher. Per capital their rate is lower. Can you understand that?


I understand how statistics work, but those are whole and real numbers.. 14k vs 40k is a huge difference.. That's double the body count of Mexico.

But back to the original point... It's still not double the rate. Also the U.S. rate is skewed a little by outlier cities like Chicago, Baltimore, etc..
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63253 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:20 pm to
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Why do we have such an unholy fetish for guns, violence, ignorance, and hatred?
Good grief.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Social. Media. Is. Cancer.


This and the media. I feel like the constant pushing of narratives is creating more monsters.


On these points we agree on.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63253 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:21 pm to

quote:

People seem to enjoy projecting evil on the opposing party when in reality evil is politically indifferent.
Well said.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102070 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:22 pm to
You baws in here still debating gun control? You would think there is a time for that and when 20 people get killed maybe table it for a few days, Looking at the liberal politicians it appears to be an opportunity instead of a time to grieve for the families.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:22 pm to
Ah. Deflect and make a personal attack instead of addressing issues.

You’re a get off my lawn or I’ll shoot guy. Thanks for making it clear. Good luck. The Wild West doesn’t exist anymore.
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