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re: El Paso Walmart mass shooting - now 22 dead

Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:45 pm to
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You want to own something that can kill someone? Fine, but you're going to have to prove annually that you're mentally stable enough to continue to own one.


And who will administer this test? Who will pay for the administration of said test? Guess all of the non gun owner will have to be taxed to afford this policy.

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Anyone convicted of a violent crime gives the court the power to take away their guns. cant own a gun for x amount of years, etc. All depends on the type of violent crime, of course.


This is already in place, felons cannot legally own guns.

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You'll also have to prove that your shitty kids with no licensing cant get to your guns (proof of a gun case with locks, safe, etc)



Sounds like a tax on poor people who cannot afford a gun and a safe. If having an ID to vote infringes on poor folks rights to vote then forcing them to buy a safe is very similar?

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This is just a rough draft stuff of the top of my head that can be done, and I am open to amending certain aspects of everything I just said if it will just fricking minimize all of this senseless killing.



How would anything you proposed have stopped what happened today?
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:45 pm to
Show me where I've said I get fricked up regularly on meth and heroin?

You wanna see pics of my arms for track marks?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53506 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:45 pm to
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Who doesn't like freshly shampooed poon?

He requires it man. Imagine taking a girl home from the bar in college and asking her to shower first
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:46 pm to
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C’mon man? You serious? Thanks for that breaking news. I had no idea

Then why suggest a measure that is already in place and practiced universally in our country? Also
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just like you have to take a hunter safety course to get a hunting license

This is not true. It’s funny (and pitifully obvious) when people start to debate and try to control things they have no knowledge of.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38422 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:46 pm to
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You’re dodging the problem here.


Says the cat who STILL hasn’t answered a single question. What are you scared of baw? Why can’t you answer?

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How about you come up with a viable solution instead of expecting because of the right to bear arms?


Why can’t you answer a couple of easy questions?

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It’s obvious everyone shouldn’t have that right but you offer no solution. Just a defense of “everyone’s rights”.


Answer.

The.

Questions.

Stop.

Being.

A.

Bitch.

DEBATE.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:47 pm to
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and now more are killed by guns

Than when?


Than cars...
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38422 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:47 pm to
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What mental disorders should be on the “no gun” list?

Mental disorder is a spectrum and affects everyone differently. Just because someone is depressed doesn’t mean they’re going to shoot up a mall. Same with schizophrenia, etc.

who decides if the person is well enough?

What is the route to appeal?

How long does said ban last?

Would punishing people for seeking treatment for mental health issues have a detrimental effect on having people seek out help?

Will there be an inherent bias amongst those who have the power to place a ban?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42242 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:48 pm to
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So give everyone in this country the right to bear arms is the answer?


That’s what the constitution gave us. It works. In a country the size of the US there will be a few instances like this every year. You don’t take away the rights of 340 million citizens because of the actions of 4 or 5 people a year
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:48 pm to
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That's why I was laughing at him. His "solution" already exists.


Mother fricker I buy 2-3 guns a year. I know how the process works. Don’t chastise me.

My point was the background check process should be more thorough

Jesus Christ you people can’t comprehend
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:49 pm to
Right?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42242 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:49 pm to
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That probably is a decent place to start.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51885 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:49 pm to
You might wanna double check that hoss

Kinda like you should’ve done in your earlier attempt at a gotcha
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53506 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:49 pm to
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My point was the background check process should be more thorough 

How out of curiosity?
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:50 pm to
That manifesto and that dude's three-friend Facebook profile positively reek of the CIA.

If that manifesto reflects his beliefs, how does what he did advance his agenda? By disarming us and inspiring people to vote for Hispano-friendly candidates for office?

Who has three Facebook friends?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22968 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:51 pm to
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My point was the background check process should be more thorough


Your post:

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I’m taking about a background check in order to purchase a gun.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27431 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:51 pm to
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And who will administer this test? Who will pay for the administration of said test? Guess all of the non gun owner will have to be taxed to afford this policy.


Gun owners can pay more of a tax too. I'm sure everyone would be ok with paying a few more dollars a year if it saves lives.

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This is already in place, felons cannot legally own guns.


there are still levels of assault that arent felonious.


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Sounds like a tax on poor people who cannot afford a gun and a safe. If having an ID to vote infringes on poor folks rights to vote then forcing them to buy a safe is very similar?


And I don't give two fricks, if you're too broke to afford a safe or lockable gun case don't own a gun.

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How would anything you proposed have stopped what happened today?


This isn't about just today man.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42242 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:52 pm to
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Imagine taking a girl home from the bar in college and asking her to shower first


There were exceptions
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
25470 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Guns, like grenades, are designed for the intent purpose of causing death.


I’m not a gun, but it’s dumb to make this comparison. Guns and Grenades (basically bombs) are very different. To simplify them as “things that cause death” is careless.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Anyone convicted of a violent crime gives the court the power to take away their guns. cant own a gun for x amount of years, etc. All depends on the type of violent crime, of course.


Felons have been prohibited from gun ownership since 1968. Some of you really should know what laws are on the books before pushing for a restriction passed 51 years ago.


Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:53 pm to
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How out of curiosity?



No idea.
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