re: EBR Library fires employee for failing to address coworker

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-a human infant born with a penis is a BIOLOGICAL male and is referred to in the English language as "he" and "him"

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-a human infant born with a vagina is a BIOLOGICAL female and is referred to in the English language as "she" and "her"

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Biology is an undeniable scientific fact and can be tested for simply....there is no such test for gender.

It is common to refer to male people as "him" and "he" and common to refer to female people as "she" and "her". It is not grammatically incorrect to refer to either as "them" or "they". If someone said "John is a good driver" and one person said "he sure is" and another said "they sure are" neither would be incorrect. This has been true since the 14th century. This predates the use of gender in relation to biological sex in English by about 100 years. It doesn't "hit" but it is not incorrect. It sounds and reads strangely...especially when the verb is plural and the singular pronouns, but it is grammatically acceptable and has been a LONG time...longer than gender and sex have been confused as synonymous.

The issue is some a-hole who LOOKS like a man or woman (gender is in the eye of the beholder as a social construct) being put out by somebody calling them by the accepted pronoun and not they them or something other than what the beholder perceives them as. Getting bent out of shape because someone is less grammatically aware than you are is silly. If that person corrects the other person and the other person continues the other person is being an equally offensive a-hole.

Gender is a social construct by ANY definition. It defines characteristics a culture assumes about an individual without ANY input from the individual themselves. Most individuals accept this perception of themselves....some do not and have not since time out of mind. If you do not like that idea just own that....its OK, most people will agree with you. Trying to feign ignorance or simply being ignorant to support your distaste is as silly as being put out by someone referring to you as "they" when you prefer "he"....there is no shame in ignorance, the shite we do not know is exponentially greater in volume than that which we do know....pretending your ignorance is the only acceptably correct world view when it is demonstrably not and has not been for about 600 years is just silly....

I can not imagine willfully referring to someone who identifies as a man as she or her or being overly put out when that man corrected me. That is EXACTLY what this dude was doing....that's just weird....weirder than a biological male in a dress....

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The difference is, one side can lose their livelihood if they don’t play along

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It is pretty easy to imagine that more people who do not accept the gender that society identifies them as would be far more likely to suffer social consequences like losing their job than someone who is ignorant of grammar or someone who is not but insists on ignoring the wishes of the first person. It is unlikely that anyone in the US has ever been murdered for referring to someone who prefers "they" and "them" but it has happened to people who did prefer "they" and "them".

Reason 1001 why I left my home state and took my business out of Bat crazy rouge

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He she and it are the only singular pronouns. Pick one

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They and them have been used as singular pronouns in the English language, written and spoken, since at least the 14th century. Gender being used synonymously with sex lags that by more than 100 years. They and them are used when one does not know the gender of the individual....

"The doctor I went to is a great doctor."

"Where did they go to school?"

Unless you know what a person's gender is they and them are more accurate than he, him, she, her or it. Given that gender is a societal construct which reflects characteristics and traits associated with male and female people and has no basis in science (no biological basis) unless someone informs you what gender they are you would be more accurate to refer to them as they or them. If you THINK the person is a biological male and refer to them as she or her it would not be out of the ordinary for them to correct you...why it is so alarming to so many people is very strange....

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Trans people are so fricked up.

They need you to validate them, then want you punished if you do not.

frick that retarded bullshite. These are children who never escaped adolescence.

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I agree that trans people are indeed fricked up. I would posit that a good bit of them being fricked up is societies expectations that they agree with societies cultural view of them when they do not. Imagine for a moment if you did not consider yourself a woman, which I assume you do not, but the majority of people you encountered did consider you a woman. That is liable to cause you some emotional trauma, especially when you were emotionally immature as a child. That is what trans people live with and may explain why many never seem to get beyond adolescence.


ALL humans need validation to some degree...which is one of the reasons most of us accept the gender we are assigned at birth without a second thought.

I do not get it and never will. Fortunately when I was slapped on the arse and my Mama was told "you have a son" I never questioned that assignment. That said I know for a certainty that not everyone is that fortunate, some segment of the population does not accept that assignment. That person is most likely going to experience some difficulties in life that I can't begin to imagine nor comprehend but it is not my intent to add to those negative experiences. If they prefer me using a pronoun other than the one I would use for them based on my perception of them that is not a lot to ask if it makes their life even a little less difficult. I make it a point to look people in the eye, to be nice and try not to make their lives any more difficult than life can be because I have no idea what type of shite they are going through and they are a fellow human being....and unlike many people I sincerely believe we should treat people like we want to be treated. I understand that is not a popular sentiment in the world today but I was saddled with that idea as a child and I just can't shake it....

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yeah not really, not at all actually



Did you get your fabulous tuck friendly bikini from Target?

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Ain't nobody wants to see me in a bikini LOL....least of all me.

Why is it weird for a man to wear a dress? It is not strange any longer for women to wear pants. The answer is because we refuse to accept the former while we have gotten over the latter.....there is nothing inherently strange about it, it is strange because it is not what we expect. Men wear kilts....no one thinks less of them for doing so. It is a skirt by any definition.

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Why is it weird for a man to wear a dress?

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Why is it weird to make fun of a man in dress and heels?

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be who you want to be, but dont force me to accept it. The forced acceptance of transgenderism is truly fascist.

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Bingo. You can think you're a woman, you can dress like one, I will not play along, I will think it's weird, and I will not let any children I know be around you.

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Why do I feel at least one liberal white woman is involved somewhere in this entire clown show. And yes, us taxpayers are going to pay for the lawsuit. Idiots.

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Progressives don't pay taxes either, so this is a win for them.

These little fascists and their pronouns need to be ignored.

For those who are mocking the idiot journalist, you can hardly blame them for trying to relay a story where progressives have bastardized the english language to the point it is unrecognizable. Then again, the idiot journalist is very likely to be on the side of the fascist.

I am always embarrassed by this profession, I swear.