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re: Duke U. surgeons refuse a 14-year-old girl a kidney transplant b/c she's not vaxxed.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:14 pm to lsunurse
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:14 pm to lsunurse
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COVID could actually kill some of these folks after a transplant.
Sure, but we all know by now that the vaccine won't stop that from happening.
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:15 pm to lsunurse
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You mean the rule that’s been standard long before COVID? They just added the COVID vaccine to their long list of required vaccinations for potential organ receivers.
This is so ridiculous
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:15 pm to LSUBoo
I thought you were smarter than that Boo. How disappointing
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:16 pm to lsunurse
Ditto.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:19 pm to LSUBoo
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Sure, but we all know by now that the vaccine won't stop that from happening.
Sure but they have to set policy based on the best risk analysis info they have
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:19 pm to LSUBoo
If you can’t see that the vaccine will offer some protection (which is better than none) to someone that will forever now be vulnerable to any virus or infection because of the meds you have to take to prevent your body from rejecting your donated organ….
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:27 pm to Oates Mustache
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If she dies, those frickers need to face jailtime.
Buried at the bottom of the article:
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Yulia is not in imminent danger.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:35 pm to lsunurse
I know more than one Dr. who questions if the vaccine actually helps or protects against Covid.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:49 pm to GREENHEAD22
Guess we'll just discard all data on the subject since you know a couple of doctors who are unsure about it
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:52 pm to GumboPot
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unless she is vaccinated against Covid - even though Yulia has already had and recovered from Covid
Ignorance still going on. Back when places started to require vaccine the only thing that would have made a little sense was just not going by a positive test especially ones through fall of 2020 when tests were going to 40CT which showed non-replicating fragments as positives above 33CT and results were positive or negative without CT reported, but even with proper quantitative antibody tests available vaccine still forced on those with natural immunity developing. Natural immunity produces S protein (spike) and N protein responses where as the vaccine produced S protein response (originals at least). To ignore the natural antibodies you are hoping vaccine pushes body to create is dumb. To ignore that with 14 year old kid needing a transplant is criminal.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:53 pm to Powerman
There is just as much data that contradicts.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:01 pm to GumboPot
Time for John Q to make an appearance
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:22 pm to GREENHEAD22
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GREENHEAD22
Ask your Dr friends if they advise not taking vaccines required to be put on the transplant list for someone approaching renal failure in need of a transplant. If they say anything beyond they would strongly recommend that anyone who is immunocompromised and will be for life needs to take all prescribed vaccines and dietary changes then I wouldn't go to them to let them take my temperature.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:33 pm to lsunurse
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If you can’t see that the vaccine will offer some protection (which is better than none) to someone that will forever now be vulnerable to any virus or infection because of the meds you have to take to prevent your body from rejecting your donated organ….
Is there any data about this at all with regard to 14 year olds? Maybe it doesn't matter for someone with her plight, I genuinely do not know.
I'm not an antivaxxer. But we increasingly learn of the vaccine's severe limitations, the data is so weak for protection to young people that it's discouraged elsewhere, and the data that the vaccine is meaningful for those with natural protection is contested at best.
The case for this, of course, would be much stronger if our country and our institutions weren't continuing to push an unnecessary and ineffective (for the subject group) vaccine on kids.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:39 pm to GumboPot
Typical hypocritical liberal organization.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:42 pm to AwesomeSauce
Well the main one has two PhDs, one in microbiology and the other in Neuro-Oncology. He is the go to surgeon for complicated brain tumors for a major cancer center and owns his own hospital.
I think I will take his word over yours.
I think I will take his word over yours.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:48 pm to GumboPot
After reading this thread I understand the situation clearer.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:52 pm to Powerman
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Honestly, I’d prefer the kidney go to natural
born American citizens first.
WTF?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:56 pm to Cobra Tate
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This is so ridiculous
Not really. After reading the reasons why. It makes sense.
I know this will be controversial on this site, but if her options are... take it and get a kidney, why not just take it? That is, if this is something that applies to everyone getting an organ transplant.
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