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re: DUI while parked and ignition off - it's possible and retarded

Posted on 5/7/16 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4766 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 5:47 pm to
So you hit something while driving drunk and they tracked it back to you that night, right?
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30808 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 5:58 pm to
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You know nothing of the Christian Right. They can appreciate a good brewski.



not really. the christian right like to tell everyone else what to do like a bunch of puritans.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 6:02 pm to
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Yeah, if you give your car keys to someone you reasonably should know is drunk and they get pulled over you get a dui too. Governments know how to get money.


Those rarely ever stick and are as easy as pie to defend.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30808 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 6:04 pm to
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Steve McNair gets hit with a DUI charge since he owned the car.


that didn't happen. you don't get a DUI because you own a vehicle and not driving.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11765 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 6:07 pm to
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What happened to the constitution? To America? The hippies are winning.


You think hippies support that kind of law? That's a fascist pig kind of law bro.

Hippies would want a law to prevent you from calling them names.

If we put all the hippies and fascist pigs on a boat and sunk it at sea, we'd probably get the country on the right track.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80092 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 6:08 pm to
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I would have a field day with that interpretation.

All it takes is a judge who hates drunk drivers or fears MADD publicity.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 6:40 pm to
Drivers, that is key to the case. No one can prove driver in what I have read here. Not even a corrupt judge could uphold a trumped up charge. Any lawyer that could not have these charges dismissed should be disbarred.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36345 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 6:48 pm to
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Drivers, that is key to the case. No one can prove driver in what I have read here. Not even a corrupt judge could uphold a trumped up charge. Any lawyer that could not have these charges dismissed should be disbarred.


I might be mistaken but I think many places have a law on the books stating that you only have to be in possession of keys or in the front seat (or varying combinations). I don't agree with it all, but, if it's in fact actual law, I'm not sure how that could be considered trumped up charges.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80092 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:00 pm to
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Drivers, that is key to the case. No one can prove driver in what I have read here. Not even a corrupt judge could uphold a trumped up charge. Any lawyer that could not have these charges dismissed should be disbarred.


Well that's an absurd thing to say. I've never handled a DUI case like this but it's easy to see how a judge might convict. Most cases like this involve a passed out occupant in the driver seat. Often passed out in the roadway, on the shoulder, or in a parking lot. Engine may or may not be running. The State can prove by circumstance all evidence that it's highly unlikely the defendant parked before drinking or whatever.

See State v Sims (426 So.2d 148) for a typical case like this.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:01 pm to
Easily dismissed charge and even more easily overturned law. My car is in my driveway, my keys are in my house. Just how far are these supposed laws intended to extend. If they cannot prove operation under the influence then there can be no charge. Does gun ownership and possession lead to murder charge. F no.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:04 pm to
You are introducing a totally different set of circumstances, but certainly open to challenge. Passed our at a red light or in a drive through are not what has been discussed here
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10060 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:17 pm to
My friend got one in college. Of course he was stopped at a red light in the middle of the night when he put his car in park, turned it off and passed out. Cops found him several hours later still shite faced and gave him a DUI.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Drivers, that is key to the case. No one can prove driver in what I have read here.


I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:25 pm to
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a married man


Your bitch makes you drink outside?

Grow a pair.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:29 pm to
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Get a real lawyer and you'll beat that all day.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:33 pm to
Not surprised. You are in good company. Drink on, enjoy jail.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 8:02 pm to
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What happened to the constitution? To America?
MADD
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
34245 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 8:06 pm to
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My friend got one in college. Of course he was stopped at a red light in the middle of the night when he put his car in park, turned it off and passed out. Cops found him several hours later still shite faced and gave him a DUI.
Being on the road makes sense. It's complete bullshite if you are passed out in a parking lot or driveway and get a DUI. What if you realize you got carried away drinking and need to hang out for awhile before you can drive or are waiting for a ride?
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 8:11 pm to
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Not surprised. You are in good company. Drink on, enjoy jail.


Why don't you try writing full, coherent sentences?

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Drivers, that is key to the case. No one can prove driver in what I have read here.


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Passed our at a red light or in a drive through are not what has been discussed here




ETA: Also, "drivers" is not key to the case. A defendant who is found to be operating the motor vehicle is key to the case.
This post was edited on 5/7/16 at 8:15 pm
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6444 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 8:16 pm to
FYI

Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, and West Virginia allow passengers to drink while the vehicle is in motion. Only the state of Mississippi permits drivers to consume alcohol while driving. However, the driver must still stay below the 0.08% blood alcohol content limit for DUI.Oct 2, 2014
Open Container Laws by State | LegalMatch Law Library
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