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re: Drone combat is terrifying
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:43 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:43 am to SlidellCajun
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Who makes these drones?
Cyberdyne Systems
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:44 am to CocomoLSU
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I assume you didn’t watch the videos. This isn’t drones like you are thinking. This is like consumer/video type drones literally laced with explosives and flying into soldiers. You’re thinking drone attacks where gigantic drones fly above and drop bombs.
I knew what it was, its really not much different except for the suicide drones. The basic premise is a guy from afar using an unmanned drone to kill someone over a computer screen.
My point is this isn't anything shockingly new, there's been guys living in Las Vegas flying drones killing Taliban in the MIddle east for over 20 years now. They've been looking up forever.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:48 am to Thundercles
I'm very close with a current soldier. Said he used to be pretty gung-ho to bayonet a chinaman.
After seeing drones blow some poor kid to smithereens, not so much.
He has little interest in getting turned into blood pudding by some nerd with a drone just so the MIC can fill its pockets
And this is a straight up bad arse motherfricker
After seeing drones blow some poor kid to smithereens, not so much.
He has little interest in getting turned into blood pudding by some nerd with a drone just so the MIC can fill its pockets
And this is a straight up bad arse motherfricker
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:49 am
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:55 am to baldona
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:59 am to Cosmo
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This bloodshed could stop if we would stop funding it.
We sat around with our thumb up our arse from 1919 to 1941 while the world burned and you see where that got us.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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You think more dehumanizing and greater distances between the attacker and the dead is going to lead to less war?
Well, when we used to slice people up with swords and bayonets there wasn't crystal clear video footage of the suffering it wrought and of the soldiers laying there dying in agony. Now that stuff can be livestreamed and the reality of war is more accessible than ever.
It's really easy for people who will never have to experience that to cheer on armed conflict because they can block out the reality. Seeing an average person who would rather not be fighting get their hands blown off and then lay there suffering until a second drone finishes the job may actually start to change people's minds.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:05 pm to Thundercles
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Pretty sure if this footage got more play no one would ever go to war again.
You know the line shut "spending other peoples money"
When it comes to "war"... It's spending other people's money and more importantly ... Other people's kids
So it'll continue
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:05 pm to Jim Rockford
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We sat around with our thumb up our arse from 1919 to 1941 while the world burned and you see where that got us.
Lol
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:06 pm to SuperOcean
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When it comes to "war"... It's spending other people's money and more importantly ... Other people's kids
Just like witches in black masses.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:07 pm to Cosmo
Somebody is going to be the big swinging dick in the world. Better us than China or Russia.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:08 pm to Twincam
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This is scary as shite, I hope to god they aren't used for things other than war.
I don’t say this lightly in the wake of the assassination attempt on Trump but I’m legit surprised we haven’t seen drones used to assassinate political leaders. As you can see in those videos those things are ridiculously fast and hard to react to in time. I’m not sure if the Secret Service or their counterparts across the globe have those drone jammer guns.
It’s scary stuff.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:11 pm to GumboPot
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drone defense systems?
There are these guns that almost look like giant versions of those radar speed guns police use. They can jam the drones signal. But you have to know the drone is coming and have it pointed in the right direction obviously.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:12 pm to theGarnetWay
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As you can see in those videos those things are ridiculously fast and hard to react in time too and I’m not sure if the Secret Service or their counterparts across the globe have those drone jammer guns.
I've got a friend who pilots a drone behind race cars on the track to get cool footage. He's whipping around courses over 100 mph and then turning on a dime and cornering with them. It would be chaos.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:21 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:Problem is if countermeasures are directional the tactic of diversion/swarm/layered makes it an issue because they are so cheap.
I assume shooting them down or maybe an EMP type of thing would be the best defense. The problem with shooting them is unless you have some precision type thing just shooting them with a gun would seem really hard. Those things are fast and agile as frick.
If not directional, you have to avoid degrading your own capability.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:29 pm to Thundercles
Well clicking that made me put my lunch back in the fridge. Awful way to go unless you are the guy blown into a million pieces or the one that got hit directly in the head. It was over quick for them. This makes you rethink warfare going forward for sure.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:36 pm to Thundercles
So it’s okay for Ukraine to violate the Geneva Conventions? Remember a while back when folks were griping about the US’s alleged violations of the GC in Iraq?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:54 pm to Thundercles
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It's really easy for people who will never have to experience that to cheer on armed conflict because they can block out the reality. Seeing an average person who would rather not be fighting get their hands blown off and then lay there suffering until a second drone finishes the job may actually start to change people's minds.
I'm sure the Russian public would not want to see this reality.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:56 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Book called “On Killing” by Dave Grossman. Excellent book on the psychology of killing.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:59 pm to I20goon
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Problem is if countermeasures are directional the tactic of diversion/swarm/layered makes it an issue because they are so cheap.
If not directional, you have to avoid degrading your own capability.
I suspect that it would be possible to block out all of the spectrum except for the SS and police communications.
Good skeet shooters with shot guns could be an effective response.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:59 pm to mauser
The dude that started the Oculus VR headset company (Palmer Luckey) is doing defensive stuff with drones for military/LE. The company is called Anduril. One thing is Anvil, a defensive drone that locks on to a targeted drone and just flies into it and smashes it.
Anduril Website - Ariel Counter Defense Systems
Says this can be used at sporting events and large crowds.
Anduril Anvil
Anduril Website - Ariel Counter Defense Systems
Says this can be used at sporting events and large crowds.
Anduril Anvil
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