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re: Driver enraged over slow truck in left lane totals car trying to pass on shoulder.

Posted on 2/2/22 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 10:57 am to
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We'll never know if he was doing this or not.


It's right in the video, clear as day. He had room to get over. He chose not to.

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He wasn't, he was passing a car


No, he was not. He had room to move back over to the right lane and chose not to. He was breaking the law by doing so.

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The law says you have to stop making your pass to get in teh right lane for the faster car? I don't think it does.


No, the law says when you pass a car, you are to move back over in to the right lane if you have room to do so when someone is behind you going faster than you.

The truck had room to move over. He chose not to.

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He was not in the wrong. Period


Yes, he was. Your ignorance of the law doesn't make you right.

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Correct, after he finished his pass, which he was in the process of making


No, he made the initial pass, then failed to move back over to the right lane to let the faster vehicle behind him pass before attempting the next pass. Which is how the law works.

Say it with me: Slower. Traffic. Keep. Right.

The truck was the slower traffic, and he failed to keep right after making his initial pass.

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You'd be wrong


You're the one arguing it's perfectly fine to just sit in the left lane as long as you're passing. As I said, your thought process is how we get mile-long bumper to bumper traffic in the left lane because of some jackass who is "passing" and refuses to move back over to the right lane when he's able.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:00 am to
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You know that know that there is also another law, right? Speed limit laws.


Irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18025 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:03 am to
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No, the law says when you pass a car, you are to move back over in to the right lane if you have room to do so when someone is behind you going faster than you.


You keep saying this, but I don't think it's true

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Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10902 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:04 am to
What discussion? That the left lane automatically belongs to the driver that wants to drive the fastest, regardless of speed limit? And that's courteous driving?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:04 am to
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It's right in the video, clear as day. He had room to get over. He chose not to.
It's not clear as day. He was passing a car, had he not started brake checking he would have passed that car in about 5 seconds. It's the completely opposite of "clear as day"
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No, he was not.
Except he was, he was in the left lane going at a higher rate of speed than the car ahead in the right lane, also known as passing.
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No, the law says when you pass a car, you are to move back over in to the right lane if you have room to do so when someone is behind you going faster than you.
Are you sure about that? For example, From the Texas official gov website:

- Signs that say, “Left lane for passing only” identifies a pass-only lane.
- After you pass someone, move into the right lane once you've safely cleared the vehicle


So....exactly like I said and nothing like you said, no?
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Yes, he was. Your ignorance of the law doesn't make you right.

See above, the actual law is what I said, not what you said.
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You're the one arguing it's perfectly fine to just sit in the left lane as long as you're passing. As I said, your thought process is how we get mile-long bumper to bumper traffic in the left lane because of some jackass who is "passing" and refuses to move back over to the right lane when he's able.

This point would be spot on, just not relevant to this example. He wasn't "passing" and instead he was passing.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18025 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:05 am to
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Are you sure about that? For example, From the Texas official gov website:

- Signs that say, “Left lane for passing only” identifies a pass-only lane.
- After you pass someone, move into the right lane once you've safely cleared the vehicle


From New Jersey

quote:

The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass at a safe distance to the left thereof and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:06 am to
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From New Jersey

Thanks, I'm interested to see if the poster can quote something that backs up his assertion
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:07 am to
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- After you pass someone, move into the right lane once you've safely cleared the vehicle


And the truck does not do this after passing the first vehicle in the footage. The dark SUV. The white truck passes the dark SUV, has room to move back over to the right lane, and does not do so. He stays in the left lane.

He does the typical American thing of "well, I'm going to pass that vehicle in front of me eventually, so I'll just stay here in the left lane. To hell with anyone behind me."

Instead of doing what is quoted above.

This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7261 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:08 am to
I drive a lot, 30k miles per year minimum (not including whatever I drive in the wife's van), with tons of interstate miles.

The amount of people that "cruise" in the left lanes and refuse to give way is infuriating. Checkerboarding on the highways is just plain bullshiat.

There were some campaigns from various states saying police would start enforcing the left lane lurker laws, but they don't, not really. I'd like to see cars in the future that already have lane assist type tech have some type of jackass alarm that will go off when it detects you are in the left lane for too long.

This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:08 am to
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And the truck does not do this after passing the first vehicle in the footage.
He didn't do that because he was passing a vehicle
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He does the typical American thing of "well, I'm going to pass that vehicle in front of me eventually, so I'll just stay here in the left lane. To hell with anyone behind me."
It would have taken him 5 seconds.



Are you able to quote the law you're speaking of here?
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27772 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:09 am to
Both vehicles at fault imo
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:10 am to
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Are you able to quote the law you're speaking of here?


You quoted it for me:

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After you pass someone, move into the right lane once you've safely cleared the vehicle


He safely cleared the dark SUV and did not move back over in to the right lane.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18025 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:10 am to
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Thanks, I'm interested to see if the poster can quote something that backs up his assertion



Looks like he's just going to downvote the ling to NJ law
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:12 am to
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He safely cleared the dark SUV and did not move back over in to the right lane.

I guess, if you want to ignore that he was passing someone, you can play that game.

Weird thing to do, but have at it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:12 am to
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Looks like he's just going to downvote the ling to NJ law

And just completely ignore that he was passing a 2nd vehicle.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:13 am to
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I guess, if you want to ignore that he was passing someone, you can play that game.


He passed someone (the dark SUV) then did not get back over in to the right lane, as it states in your own quote.

Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15962 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:13 am to
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Both vehicles at fault imo




This is what I believe. The driver of that car is definitely guilty of reckless driving but the driver of the truck was wrong to speed up to try to block them. They both should be ticketed
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10902 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:13 am to
I drove from El Segundo, CA to Encino, CA up the 405 for 5 days a week so I know how maddening traffic can be. A 27 mi commute would take 1.5 hours.

There's zero excuse for aggressive and dangerous driving.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by idrivethefiretruck
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
258 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:14 am to
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Driver enraged over slow truck in left lane totals car trying to pass on shoulder.



You just totaled your Honda Accord BESERKER!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:14 am to
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He passed someone (the dark SUV) then did not get back over in to the right lane, as it states in your own quote.

Because he was passing a vehicle. You ignoring that does not mean it was not happening.
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