re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's

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It's kind of funny because in term of health we are kind of arguing around the margins. If I had to guess 80% of health outcomes are genetic.

Just like all the doctors say, "it genetics"

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from what i have seen study wise is that 80% of the health benefits of a diet come from being in a caloric deficit. the rest comes from reactions to certain foods and also from the protein. that is why i think many get better results from elimination diet like keto that gets them in a caloric deficit and is high protein.

they are building muscle or maintaining, losing body fat and ridding the body of inflammation from them eating foods they dont tolerate well. lower carb diets due tend to not cause people to lower energy output(think neat) while simultaneously lowering energy input(lowering calories over time subconsciously)

but yea after the weight loss much of it is genetics, how much we exercise, what type of exercise etc


but yea 100% around the margins and that is what i meant. not saying people should eat hfcs, quite the opposite...its that if we are going to concentrate on a couple things that are the lowest hanging fruit

1) walk 8k steps
2) lift weights
3) count calorie to make sure in caloric deficit
4) eat bodyweight in protein or close to that

sure once we get to 10-12% bodyfat...sure we can start worrying about timing, timing of macros, macro breakdown etc but until then or atleast below 15% kind of a waste of time

just eat what ever strategy you like that helps you stay compliant to those rules above, doesnt matter if that is keto, low fat, iifym, IF, combo of those, etc etc just stay compliant

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I just always remember that 90% of the people posting "our food is poison" will be shoving down wings dipped in ranch and washing it down with Bud Light this weekend

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But to be fair, I had just run 7 miles. Feel like it was a wash.

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You're good

I'll probably be doing the same (sans the BL)

I just hate people talking in hyperbole for internet points

fricking dorks

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thank you...im not perfect by any means

i just hate the hyperbole and just straight up BS that people put out there on this board

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I just hate people talking in hyperbole

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They are the worst people in the world.

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If I'm on a diet I wouldnt feel bad about drinking 10 bottles of water a day, but would not drink 10 sodas a day even if they were diet.

This isnt that hard, the people drinking water could be carrying more water weight than the people drinking diet sodas doe their diets

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that is not even close to how water weight works my man.

the more water you drink the less you withhold

People drinking sodas are less hydrated than those that drink water. I wrestled in school and water weight could easily make a 3 pound (the difference in your study) difference in someone being well hydrated (water drinker) and dehydrated (diet sodas).

If you like diet sodas that's fine, but pretending they are just as healthy (while being better for weight loss) as drinking water is crazy

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2) sodas tend to make you hold onto water, drinking lots of water does the opposite. Water intake can throw off results if you dont urinate any of it out, but Im quite sure all the participants werent sitting around weight bottles of water out adn avoiding urinating to throw off the study.

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Retaining more water in ur belly due to drinking 6 diet sodas a day does not mean you are better hydrated than the person drinking 10 bottle of water per day and pissing more often

You may be surprised to know that because beverages such as diet soda are composed primarily of water, they do count towards your daily water requirement. However, you must take into consideration diet soda additives such as sodium and caffeine that may actually remove water from your body.

And here's a ucla study showing why diet sodas are not good for your body's hydration levels

LINK

yea sodium has never been known to cause water retention at all

brother please read the chart...they were not losing 5.1kg of water weight

sodium makes one retain water, caffeine intake difference was 25mg/day...not enough to dehydrate


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If you aren't hydrating properly by maintaining a diet only consisting of only diet sodas then your body isnt gonna be able to maintain the ideal levels of water in each cell.

They don't include any info on hydration levels in your study from the American beverage association.

It mentions drinking 2 glasses of diet soda per day vs 2 glasses of water. You need at least 8 glasses of water per day to be well hydrated.

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Dude. You didn't read the study.

The study allowed unrestricted water consumption for the NNS beverage group.

They just had to also drink at least 24 oz of a NNS beverage.

JFC.