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re: Donald Trump is the single reason the Media is NOW covering the flood

Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:20 pm to
Why, did he fix all the houses?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31879 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:25 pm to
Him coming:
1. Brought some more attention to the state and himself, ignoring the last part is laughable
2. He donated money and some relief, more than a lot of people who constantly bash him
3. Didn't really spend much "resources" on him being here for a visit
4. Forces obama's and clinton's hands to come as well, which leads to more photo ops for them and donations from them and even more people around the nation.

I don't see the negativity or how the state is losing from this...? Ontop of that, I kind of think he's a dumbass and I'm not going to even vote for him.
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:22 pm to
As someone who disagrees with Obama/ Clinton politically on most things, I think the praise he's getting is just as ridiculous as the outrage over Obama's response.

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Him coming: 1. Brought some more attention to the state and himself, ignoring the last part is laughable


Agreed but people act like there hasn't been a story on the National News every evening for at least the last week. It hasn't been 24/7 Katrina coverage by any means but is that what people really want?

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2. He donated money and some relief, more than a lot of people who constantly bash him


Dude is just plain bashable so deal with it. If you support him, you know he's being abrupt and often inappropriate and that's what supporters like about him. He lives his life in such a manner that he wants to be remembered and he is quick to correct anyone who contradicts his version of things. He is consumed by how the history books will portray his awesomeness.

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3. Didn't really spend much "resources" on him being here for a visit


He did something, no charity should be ignored or unappreciated, and you got a little extra attention from it. If Hillary did the same thing, most would call it pandering so just see the photo op for what it is and thank him for his concern.

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4. Forces obama's and clinton's hands to come as well, which leads to more photo ops for them and donations from them and even more people around the nation.


There'll never be a time where the President can go on vacation and not have some shite happen that is important. You mobilize the appropriate response teams and call it a Federal Emergency so everything that needs to, and can, be in place without further Congressional approval is there. The FEMA mobilization part of it couldn't hardly have gotten going faster. Sorry, your house isn't fixed yet but it just takes a little time to get a mass response team full of fund in place. No hands have been forced by Trump, the situation is still in it's infancy and it will be well into 2017 before the area starts to feel "normal" again. History says the influx of money and jobs will end up being a net positive for the entire area despite how bad it sucks right now.

I'll get downvoted and branded for this post but I really think conservatives could be much more effective fighting the good fight if we could take a step back, understand the reality of situations, and channel our outrage to things we should be outraged about.

This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119995 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:32 pm to
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There'll never be a time where the President can go on vacation and not have some shite happen that is important. You mobilize the appropriate response teams and call it a Federal Emergency so everything that needs to, and can, be in place without further Congressional approval is there. The FEMA mobilization part of it couldn't hardly have gotten going faster. Sorry, your house isn't fixed yet but it just takes a little time to get a mass response team full of fund in place. No hands have been forced by Trump, the situation is still in it's infancy and it will be well into 2017 before the area starts to feel "normal" again. History says the influx of money and jobs will end up being a net positive for the entire area despite how bad it sucks right now.

I'll get downvoted and branded for this post but I really think conservatives could be much more effective fighting the good fight if we could take a step back, understand the reality of situations, and channel our outrage to things we should be outraged about.



Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:35 pm to
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That BR attorney sums up you cocksucking losers.



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Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10083 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:41 pm to
Dumbest thing I've read all week, I spent the flood in Alaska, where I heard about it EVERY DAY!! You are some whiny bitches...
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:43 pm to
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"educated" discussion



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Trump


the irony

Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31879 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:44 pm to
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Agreed but people act like there hasn't been a story on the National News every evening for at least the last week. It hasn't been 24/7 Katrina coverage by any means but is that what people really want?



I think people want equivalent coverage as what the NE got with Sandy

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Dude is just plain bashable so deal with it. If you support him, you know he's being abrupt and often inappropriate and that's what supporters like about him. He lives his life in such a manner that he wants to be remembered and he is quick to correct anyone who contradicts his version of things. He is consumed by how the history books will portray his awesomeness.



he is 100% easily bashable, but at the same time if he does something "good" for people...they'll still bash him. He could donate 100k tomorrow to louisiana and theres a shite ton of people who would condemn it and bash him for it. That is the ridiculous part.

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He did something, no charity should be ignored or unappreciated, and you got a little extra attention from it. If Hillary did the same thing, most would call it pandering so just see the photo op for what it is and thank him for his concern.



I think most people on either side called Trump coming to LA was 99% photo op. So Hillary coming first would get the same amount of praise and disdain IMHO.

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There'll never be a time where the President can go on vacation and not have some shite happen that is important. You mobilize the appropriate response teams and call it a Federal Emergency so everything that needs to, and can, be in place without further Congressional approval is there. The FEMA mobilization part of it couldn't hardly have gotten going faster. Sorry, your house isn't fixed yet but it just takes a little time to get a mass response team full of fund in place. No hands have been forced by Trump, the situation is still in it's infancy and it will be well into 2017 before the area starts to feel "normal" again. History says the influx of money and jobs will end up being a net positive for the entire area despite how bad it sucks right now.

I'll get downvoted and branded for this post but I really think conservatives could be much more effective fighting the good fight if we could take a step back, understand the reality of situations, and channel our outrage to things we should be outraged about.


That's kind of the point of being the POTUS tho ain't it? You're the figurehead of the nation, the people below you that you put in charge can do the work, but you should still show face or show at least more acknowledgement than what he's done instead of his "lets not be racist towards one another in times of need" 16 page guideline on how to save our asses.
Posted by saintforlife
Member since Aug 2008
1044 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 7:13 pm to
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I think most people on either side called Trump coming to LA was 99% photo op. So Hillary coming first would get the same amount of praise and disdain IMHO.

Have you been to the Poli board lately? They are calling Trump the second coming of Jesus for showing up in Louisiana and posing for one photograph behing an 18-wheeler unloading a box...while continuing to equate Obama with Satan.

Hillary coming first would absolutely not get any praise...not on this site at least. People here would be twisting her visit a 100 different ways to make is look negative. It's the truth.
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 7:15 pm to
Have a downvote fricktard
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:05 am to
Had to sign off for a bit but seriously...

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I think people want equivalent coverage as what the NE got with Sandy


I think everyone should demand news. There was a time where journalism at least feigned impartiality but there is no channel who even pretends to do so anymore. To anyone with a brain that really wants to hear any truth, the ridiculous part is that there are few, if any sources for news without a slant.

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he is 100% easily bashable, but at the same time if he does something "good" for people...they'll still bash him. He could donate 100k tomorrow to louisiana and theres a shite ton of people who would condemn it and bash him for it. That is the ridiculous part.



That's funny because anyone involved in the election could do the same thing and people would suspect motive, that isn't unique to Trump and it shouldn't be.

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That's kind of the point of being the POTUS tho ain't it? You're the figurehead of the nation, the people below you that you put in charge can do the work, but you should still show face or show at least more acknowledgement than what he's done instead of his "lets not be racist towards one another in times of need" 16 page guideline on how to save our asses.


The "figurehead" has everything moving that can be moving already and his coming to announce it is purely a show.

I didn't read the 16 page document but it certainly seems demeaning and hugely inappropriate from what I know of it. I think there's likely a bunch of outrage over just a few lines in it. I could be wrong but me, and every conservative I know, are all wishing that people weren't so easily offended. That's why Trump got nominated as a Republican even though he is/ was ideologically left of Clinton, especially during the Primaries.

People, grow up, Trump isn't fixing this and the ground rules have been firmly established long before this flood. Everything is already in motion that can be in motion and a photo op from Obama, Trump, or Hillary won't change shite.





Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:30 am to
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He went down there because nobody cared or was covering the flood


You can't honestly believe that Trump is some philanthropic patriot who only wants to make America great again do you? If you think this is the reason he came here then your privileges for starting threads should be revoked and your right to vote questioned.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17033 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:35 am to
Get back to the poli board. Make the OT Great again. Tits and crazy arse Florida stories.

We need to build a wall of nsfw gifs to keep those dang politards out.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 12:36 am
Posted by Correct2017
Member since Aug 2016
112 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:56 am to
Look up how George W. was bashed over Katrina for not landing Air Force One despite them telling him not to land it.

Obama gets a pass.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:31 am to
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Look up how George W. was bashed over Katrina for not landing Air Force One despite them telling him not to land it. Obama gets a pass.


Jesus dude, I don't need to look up Bush during Katrina because I lived in NOLA then and still own a house there.

Read my comments in this thread, he doesn't get a pass but this thread basically said that 4 hours of Trump in LA turned the tide for making things better and getting the proper attention and that is ludicrous beyond any human's capacity for logic.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:39 am to
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Barely. My company is HQ'd out of Wisconsin and I was still getting request on Tuesday/Wednesday for things. When I'd reply letting them know it would be a while because of the floods, they'd were amazed that this was going on and they had no clue about it. The national media simply was not carrying the story.


This isn't true. It was the lead story on both ABC and NBC news before Trump

Hell, my elevator news clip carried the story, which also goes nationwide
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78377 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:52 am to
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So Hillary coming first would get the same amount of praise and disdain IMHO.

Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:06 am to
This may suck to say, but maybe people outside of the region generally didn't/don't give a frick about the floods in La. No amount of media coverage is going to change that.


Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:08 am to
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Look up how George W. was bashed over Katrina for not landing Air Force One despite them telling him not to land it.



Bush was bashed because Americans were stranded in an extremely visible and prominent place for days in an event that saw the death of ~1,500 Americans. I don't get why so many people want this event to be Katrina so badly. Other than flooding, the two situations are drastically different, and that is a great thing. People can start rebuilding almost immediately, and not have to wait months to be able to return to their homes.

Louisiana and the federal government learned a lot about disaster response from that $100 billion disaster.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:15 am to
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This may suck to say, but maybe people outside of the region generally didn't/don't give a frick about the floods in La. No amount of media coverage is going to change that.


I live in Houston and had a co-worker in Calgary ask about it knowing my family is all in BR.

You have the Olympics and an election year, and there have been several floods this year. It seems people are upset because it didn't get around the clock coverage, but i saw it multiple times in the 30 minutes I look at a TV throughout the day via the gym and break room.

I guess it is an us vs. the world mentality which may help in a time like this. I've been pretty proud about how most people in Louisiana have handled it.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 6:16 am
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