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re: Dog thinks he is Alpha, suggestions? update p.9

Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:24 pm to
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What if he starts whining? How long should I hold him down?



Lol. Good luck becoming the alpha...
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:24 pm to
Sounds like the dog is alpha and you're the beta. Sorry.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:24 pm to
That dog knows he's alpha.

Just submit, you know you want to.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:27 pm to
I would be careful on Chows. They are freaking mean and aggressive. I wouldn't wrestle him, just asking for a bite.

Get a choke collar, get a shock collar, make him trail you when walking him in the AM, don't let him eat until you give permission, etc.

But in reality, with your girl friend there he was alpha of her and it will be tough to break that unless she participates.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:27 pm to
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Let him get good and hungry and make him work for his food. Always lead him and always be in control.

In the dog world, the alpha is not always the toughest it's the best leader that dogs want to follow. He's got you backed in your beta corner and now you have to convince him that he should follow you. Hunger and training are good ways.




Sounds good. I will also make him sit before every meal. I'll start taking the lead on our walks. I usually just let him sniff where ever he wants to along the road. Apparently that is wrong too. Man, I suck at this dog parenting crap.



Thanks

Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:28 pm to
Piss on him
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:29 pm to
Sounds like you are the dog's bitch now. Don't make him mad.
Posted by Falcon Punch
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:31 pm to
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Bite down hard on his left ear and hold until you sense him submit.


I know this seems crazy but it will work. I wouldn't use it until I had exhausted other options.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3811 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:31 pm to
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quote: Flip him over on his back and hold him down. But be ready for a fight. You gotta earn alpha. In all seriousness, it's this. Just gotta be ready for a fight. You'll break him.


This. When you flip him hold him down and stare him down until he turns his head away. Repeat as necessary. He will fight to get away so you need a good hold to make sure he can't get away and don't let go until after he turns his head away.
Posted by Make It Rayne
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:33 pm to
Castration
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:34 pm to
If OP tries this on a 70lb chow mix, I'd suggest some of that thick-arse dog trainer padding. Might get bit a time or two.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5325 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:39 pm to
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Apparently that is wrong too. Man, I suck at this dog parenting crap.


You'll get there. You just have to be calm and in control. If you get pissed spank him one time and put him away. He's really just got to learn that he will do what you say.

Shock collars and choke chains help. If your walking him on a retractable leash switch it out to a four foot lead to keep him close so your in charge. I like those harnesses that attach around the dogs nose also. The idea behind those is if he demonstrates behaviour you don't like, you can pull on his face and redirect him. Nothing shows a dog he's not in control faster then redirecting him be his nose.

Otherwise make him mind you and reward good behaviour with treats and he might come around.

Chows can be mean sons of bitches so good luck.
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:39 pm to
Flipping him on his back isn't going to work - he is going to fight you like hell - he lays into you pretty good and you are going to have to hurt him bad or back off. You hurt him, your GF will be pissed (you started it, remember??) you back off and he really has made you his bitch. Take him to obedience class - you'll get it worked out there and you will score major points w your GF...
Make him sit before you feed him for a few days then make him lie down on his stomach before you give him his food... If he doesn't obey, no food, and do not let him sleep with y'all...
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 11:07 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69635 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:42 pm to
Anytime your dog eats pretend that you are eating his food. I learned this from a dog behavior/trainer. Remember dogs came from wolves you are his pack master. Only pet him when necessary. Don't be overly affectionate with him
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38251 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:44 pm to
Please videotape yourself pinning down this 70 lb, mean, alpha-as-frick chow dog.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted by DriveByBBQ
Willard's Garage
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:54 pm to
Make him watch me bang your gf.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68870 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:06 pm to
Sounds like you need to establish yourself as alpha to the dog and the girlfriend.

But if it doesn't come natural, you won't fool either one.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:07 pm to
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alpha-as-frick chow dog


He is a mix. Chow and German Shepard mix.


His hair makes him look a lot bigger than he is. Plus he sheds all the freaking time in the house. This is not him but this is almost exactly what he looks like:





Fortunately, we just gave him his summer hair cut. He looks smaller now. Looks almost identical to this picture.




Overall, he is a great dog. Just needs to listen.
Posted by Hogtastic Voyage
Fayetteville
Member since Dec 2010
1357 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:14 pm to
He's gonna rip your fricking face off. Please video the pin down
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