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re: Does gravity have an infinite range?

Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:16 am to
Posted by motorbreath
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:16 am to
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One of the topics raised is if there is an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of force, thus a limit to gravity. And if gravity is the curvature of space time, is there an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of length for the space to curve to create it.


But then this would imply that an unquantifiable amount of gravity exists.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:18 am to
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think its about 46 billion in both directions.


This may be a dumb question/statement, but wouldn't this imply the universe is also at least 46 billion years old?
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:18 am to
That equation you referenced is widely used in classical mechanics, but in relativistic mechanics it isn't the way we prefer to look at the world. Mainly because gravity can be shown to affect light waves, which are made of photons, which are massless. This pretty much means the classical approach is missing something, and that something is that Gravity is better modeled as curvature in space-time.
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:22 am to
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That equation you referenced is widely used in classical mechanics, but in relativistic mechanics it isn't the way we prefer to look at the world. Mainly because gravity can be shown to affect light waves, which are made of photons, which are massless. This pretty much means the classical approach is missing something, and that something is that Gravity is better modeled as curvature in space-time.


oh i know it was the simplistic equation, but it gives the force over distance in an easy to see and visualize equation.
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:24 am to
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his may be a dumb question/statement, but wouldn't this imply the universe is also at least 46 billion years old?


not dumb you are just forgetting about the ever increasing expansion of the universe being driven by a theorized 'dark energy'. they have to consider that expansion over the 13 billion years we know its existed to consider where the actual edge of space has expanded to.
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:26 am to
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But then this would imply that an unquantifiable amount of gravity exists.


ive seen theories suggesting gravity leaks out of our universe so you implication is valid
Posted by ErectileReptile
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:17 am to
Are the dimensions you gave for observable universe? If not wouldn't it be impossible to determine that?
Posted by Emteein
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:21 am to
Why do all that reading when you can just watch a movie?

Posted by AUveritas
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:58 am to
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The universe is shaped exactly like the earth. You go straight long enough, you'll end up where you were.


I've often heard the universe compared to the inside of a balloon that's being blown up.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:08 am to
So the answer to gravity is love? Thanks Chris Nolan
Posted by waiting4saturday
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:32 am to
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Does gravity have an infinite range?


Yes



Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:42 am to
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I frickin HATE how Reddit is formatted,


Reddit hates how your face is formatted.
Posted by Halftrack
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:21 am to
You are composed of matter that existed at the beginning of time. You tell me.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:37 am to
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Today, we know that atoms do not represent the smallest unit of matter. Particles called quarks and leptons seem to be the fundamental building blocks - but perhaps there is something even smaller. Physicists are still far from understanding why a proton has about 2,000 times more mass than an electron.
Apr 25, 2014


If we can't put a limit on microparticles (nanoparticles?) how can there be a quantifiable unit of gravity?
Posted by 3en
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:46 am to
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the answer is 3, 5, 8, or 11 depending on your perspective.


Not so fast...
Posted by Halftrack
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:48 am to
Yep. I see all that nerd stuff.

Hey, did you guys know that if you get a hot chick, she might let you put your penis in her vagina?
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:02 am to
Yes its only theorized, they cannot see the edge of space. Our visual limit goes back to about 13.1 billion years beyond that redshift usually is so great that the objects fade into infra red only.

Its olber's paradox...if a universe, static and infinitely full of stars uniformly distributed why does your line of sight not eventually hit surface of a bright star, why then is night sky not bright.

the universe is expanding and light redshifts into the invisible wavelengths.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:02 am to
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And if gravity is the curvature of space time, is there an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of length for the space to curve to create it.

Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:11 am to
nevermind
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:14 am to
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I want to even.

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I literally can't even

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