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re: Does anyone regret getting vaccinated?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:36 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:36 pm to The Spleen
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There isn't even a government mandate in effect right now
The Dept of Defense disagrees with this assessment.
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:38 pm to Steadyhands
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nyone who has a bad immune system, is unhealthy, and/or is elderly, should seriously consider getting one of the vaccines for additional help. To imply we as in all of us should... Why? Justify that thought with logic and data.
Firstly, because human immunity is directly social. That fact is why we can even eradicate infectious disease.
Secondly, if we are counting at risk people, the elderly and the overweight along with those with autoimmune issues, we would have to vaccinate near 75% of the US population anyway.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:38 pm to lsufb1912
Not at all. And I also don’t regret my lovely vacation to the Maldives over Thanksgiving. Or all the other hassle free travel I’ve been doing since Covid.
I have some friends that still haven’t attended a concert of football game since Burrow was still a Tiger. I couldn’t imagine
I have some friends that still haven’t attended a concert of football game since Burrow was still a Tiger. I couldn’t imagine
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:44 pm to crazy4lsu
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Good to know you are a dumbass everywhere, not just the rant.
Ah, here is a sheep who got the messenger-RNA shot without knowing the long term consequences. And then calls someone else a dumbass to boot. What a effing genius - (the genius part is sarcasm, since the sheep isn't smart enough to figure it out)
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:46 pm to lsufb1912
I sort of do. I had to get it to be able to attend my son’s graduation from boot camp. I later got Covid. I don’t like being coerced into things, but wanted to be there for him.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:46 pm to Steadyhands
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There's a government mandate if you work for the government.
That’s an employer mandate.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:46 pm to Tiger Ree
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Ah, here is a sheep who got the messenger-RNA shot without knowing the long term consequences. And then calls someone else a dumbass to boot. What a effing genius - (the genius part is sarcasm, since the sheep isn't smart enough to figure it out)
Lol, what are the long-term consequences of vaccinations in general? Lay them out for me and I can tell you why the 'long-term' angle is such a retarded caveat to make.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:50 pm to Strannix
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No one will admit being duped
i think most vaxxers know they've been had and it's all just vanity and pride at this point. 7 deadly sins.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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nyone who has a bad immune system, is unhealthy, and/or is elderly, should seriously consider getting one of the vaccines for additional help. To imply we as in all of us should... Why? Justify that thought with logic and data.
Firstly, because human immunity is directly social. That fact is why we can even eradicate infectious disease.
Secondly, if we are counting at risk people, the elderly and the overweight along with those with autoimmune issues, we would have to vaccinate near 75% of the US population anyway.
So you admit 25% don't need the vaccine. I agree, at least 25% don't need and shouldn't get a vaccine for this. The benefits don't outweigh the risks because there aren't any risks with not getting a vaccine.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:58 pm to crazy4lsu
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Lol, what are the long-term consequences of vaccinations in general? Lay them out for me and I can tell you why the 'long-term' angle is such a retarded caveat to make.
You really aren't very bright are you.
This Plandemic is no worse than the flu. Never was
Dr. Ezike: 90% of Illinois' COVID-19 deaths had underlying condition - 40 second YouTube video
They admit they lie and people still wont believe
How COVID Deaths are Classified - 43 second YouTube video
How COVID Deaths are Classified
(Not a vaccine but is not my thread or title)
"Covid-19 vaccines have caused more death than all other vaccines since 1990" - CDC Information
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=99481933&s=2&p=99481933#99481933
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:59 pm to The Spleen
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There's a government mandate if you work for the government.
That’s an employer mandate.
Okay, it's also and more so a government mandate, otherwise it would not have been done with an executive order. It could have been only an employer mandate through other means, but it wasn't.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:59 pm to Steadyhands
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So you admit 25% don't need the vaccine. I agree, at least 25% don't need and shouldn't get a vaccine for this. The benefits don't outweigh the risks because there aren't any risks with not getting a vaccine.
Lol, that's what you took from my post? So much for logic.
And there are plenty of risks with getting COVID. The list of sequelae are much longer than the risks associated with the vaccine.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:00 pm to Tiger Ree
Answer my question you dumbshit.
Also I've seen some of those links. Clinically, how do we make the 'died with COVID/from COVID' distinction?
Also I've seen some of those links. Clinically, how do we make the 'died with COVID/from COVID' distinction?
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:03 pm to lsufb1912
Yeah, somewhat. It doesn't work and we still have to put up with all the horse shite like masks, muh exposure protocol, etc.
I'm not even blaming the people who didn't get it, though I don't understand their decision. The globohomohebros were never going to relax anything. Our living standard will continue to ratchet down until we (or our descendants) seek redress using violence.
I'm not even blaming the people who didn't get it, though I don't understand their decision. The globohomohebros were never going to relax anything. Our living standard will continue to ratchet down until we (or our descendants) seek redress using violence.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:09 pm to crazy4lsu
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Answer my question you dumbshit.
The CDC data and Illinois lead doctor is not enough?
And that is just in the last year and a half. Just wait and see how bad it really is over time.
Dispute the info I have posted. Here's some more info to boggle your little brain. Explain this to the board mister Genius.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=99457797&b=50&s=1&p=99457592
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re: From “no way”, to now “likely” by the MSM that mRNA vaccine is causing heart inflammation
24-Year-Old Hockey Star Boris Sadecky Dies After Collapsing on Ice in Cardiac Arrest Last Friday – 80% of League is Vaccinated https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/24-year-old-hockey-star-boris-sadecky-dies-collapsing-ice-cardiac-arrest-last-friday-80-league-vaccinated/
Avi Barot, 29, Saurashtra cricketer suffers cardiac arrest, passes away: https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/young-saurashtra-cricket-player-avi-barot-dies-after-suffering-cardiac-arrest/article37015873.ece
Abou Ali, 22, professional footballer collapses on pitch during game: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16118079/footballer-wessam-abou-ali-awake-hospital-collapse/
Fabrice NSakala, 31, Besiktas defender collapses on pitch during game: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/22/fabrice-nsakala-besiktas-collapse
Jens De Smet, 27, footballer collapses on field, passes away of heart attack: https://newswep.com/jens-27-collapses-on-the-football-field-and-dies-this-is-not-maldegem/
Jente van Genechten, 25, footballer collapses on field due to heart attack: https://www.sudinfo.be/id411745/article/2021-08-18/25-ans-un-joueur-belge-de-football-fait-un-arret-cardiaque-sur-le-terrain-avant
Frederic Lartillot, French footballer collapses in changing room, passes away due to heart attack after game: https://www.leprogres.fr/culture-loisirs/2021/09/11/deces-d-un-joueur-de-foot-apres-un-match-ses-coequipiers-ont-tout-tente-pour-le-sauver
Benjamin Taft, 31, German footballer collapses after game, passes away due to heart attack: https://www.anpfiff.info/mobile/sites/cms/artikel.aspx?SK=2&Btr=96044&Rub=390
Rune Coghe, 18, Belgian footballer suffers cardiac arrest on pitch: https://www.sudinfo.be/id409738/article/2021-08-07/rune-jeune-joueur-de-18-ans-secroule-sur-le-terrain-du-rds-plus-le-temps-passe
Helen Edwards, referee taken off court during World Cup qualifier due to heart issues: https://www.rtl.de/cms/dfb-spiel-unterbrochen-linienrichterin-vom-platz-getragen-4834888.html
Dimitri Lienard, 33, FC Strasbourg midfielder collapses during game: https://madeinfoot.ouest-france.fr/infos/article-rc-strasbourg-dimitri-lienard-a-ete-victime-d-un-malaise-354221.html
Sergio Aguero, 33, Barecelona star striker admitted to hospital for cardiac exam after match: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/31/football/sergio-aguero-barcelona-chest-pain-spt-intl/index.html
Emil Palsson, 28, Sognal midfielder collapses due to cardiac arrest during game: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/norway-footballer-emil-palsson-cardiac-arrest-b1949583.html
Antoine Méchin, 31, French triathlete suffers pulmonary embolism following Moderna: https://www.sudouest.fr/sport/course-pedestre/triathlon/le-triathlete-saintais-antoine-mechin-met-un-terme-a-sa-saison-et-ne-se-referait-pas-vacciner-si-c-etait-a-refaire-6234090.php
Luis Ojeda, 20, Argentine football player unexpectedly passes away: https://www.antena3.com/noticias/deportes/futbol/emotiva-carta-lola-ortiz-muerte-novio-futbolista-luis-ojeda-soporto-idea-volver-ver-verte-nunca-mas_20210426608696616e5d5b0001eb20e9.html
Greg Luyssen, 22, Belgian pro cyclist ends career due to heart issues: https://kw.be/sport/wielrennen/wielerbelofte-greg-luyssen-22-uit-de-panne-over-gedwongen-afscheid-door-hartprobleem-dat-akelig-gevoel-wil-ik-nooit-meer/
Pedro Obiang, 29, ex-West Ham star suffers myocarditis post vaccine: https://thecovidworld.com/pedro-obiang-29-year-old-professional-footballer-suffers-myocarditis-after-covid-19-vaccine/
Cienna Knowles, 19, equestrian star hospitalized due to blood clots: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/teen-equestrian-star-cienna-knowles-hospitalised-with-blood-clots-after-pfizer-vaccine/news-story/286e7cd42e896b091e4b257322296a05
Florian Dagoury: World Record Holder In Static Breath-Hold Freediving Diagnosed With Myopericarditis After Pfizer Vaccine, Possible End Of Career
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:12 pm to crazy4lsu
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That wasn't working. It still doesn't work. The thing about morons is that they are immune to correction.
Public health messaging in the information world runs headlong into the small group large group messaging conundrum.
When addressing individuals or small groups the messenger can include more caveats and address individual questions and concerns. The messenger can react to the sophistication of their audience and adjust their vocabulary and/or concepts to best service the group. They can communicate with them on a very individual level.
Large group communication of all sorts is hamstrung by the fact you have to treat the mass populations like they are children. You have to use simple declarative statements that the vast majority can understand. You do not have the opportunity to address individual concerns or questions and you do not have time to address all the caveats or you will lose 90% of your audience. The problem is people who are interested or don't want to believe the messaging have the ability to find all the caveats and gray areas and throw that back at the messenger when the messenger is not there to respond.
In a perfect world, each individual would have all the time they liked to sit down with an unbiased and trusted medical professional with all the salient information and discuss their options as it pertains to their health and safety. Since this is not a perfect world this didn't happen for most people and they are left to their own devices which for many leads to confirmation bias instead of a blank slate view of the information.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:12 pm to crazy4lsu
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that's what you took from my post? So much for logic.
And there are plenty of risks with getting COVID. The list of sequelae are much longer than the risks associated with the vaccine.
Lol. "So much for logic" so you're one of those posters that like to throw words and phrases around as though it's some discredit to whatever anyone says. That's some liberal logic there, not agreeing and following along like a good sheep means something is illogical. Inside the realm of a liberal's mind, sure, but in the real world that's not how it works.
There are risks with everything. By your "logic," since there are risks with getting covid, everyone should go ahead and take on any additional risks with getting the vaccine? I don't know if there are long term effects that could come from getting a vaccine, I also don't know if there are any long term effects from getting covid. No one does for either. I do know that any immediate issues from covid are extremely unlikely for my children and I. That is a fact with plenty of data to support it and zero data that says otherwise. Use your logic and provide data to suggest everyone should get the vaccine. If you or anyone else could, probably just about everyone would get vaccinated just like we have for numerous other diseases.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:13 pm to RedHawk
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Nope, getting my booster this week
Lol but why?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:14 pm to Tiger Ree
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The CDC data and Illinois lead doctor is not enough?
You dumbshit, go read my question again and understand what I'm asking.
Secondly, how are we to determine this 'with COVID/from COVID' clinically?
In terms of the soccer players, the rates of soccer player deaths on professional teams is still lower than 2011-13, as soccer players especially seem prone to HCOM and other genetic heart conditions which only become apparent when they collapse. It's been a prominent issue in the sport since Marc Vivian-Foe died in 2003, but obviously you would have no awareness of that.
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