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re: Does anybody know anybody who actually doesn't believe we landed on the moon?

Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by JPinLondon
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:09 pm to
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I pretty much stand alone in my belief with my other family members. I can not argue with my younger brother...he went to adult Space Camp a couple of years ago.


Obviously, all opinions are welcome on the O-T. But what are your Top Two (or three) biggest reasons to disbelieve in the landings?

I suspect I can, politely, debunk them without even searching online. Give me a try.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91588 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:13 pm to
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Whistleblowers could be threatened with imprisonment as it was a matter of "national security".


This is still the biggest reason these conspiracies are so far fartched. You'd have 50 years worth of people trying to keep shite a secret. It's not happening. Sorry, just not.

All these dumb conspiracies would have thousands of people neededing to keep their mouth shut.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:23 pm to
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This is still the biggest reason these conspiracies are so far fartched
Biggest? What about the fact that the Soviets never claimed otherwise or the 800lbs of Moon rocks we have?
Posted by JodyPlauche
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:29 pm to
We can start with the video showing them in low earth orbit when they were supposed to be about to land on the Moon.

I would recomend the whole Documentary...but skip to 32:05 if you want to see that part.

LINK

Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
Me...no one has explained to me how they got past that radiation belt. because they didn't.
Posted by JodyPlauche
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:35 pm to
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I suspect I can, politely, debunk them without even searching online. Give me a try.


Add in:

1. We claim we do not have the technology today to go

2. We claim to have destroyed the information

3. The Van Allen Radition Belts

4. I can look up

5. Neil A. Spelled backwards is Alien and Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was Moon. What are the odds of those 2 coincidences?

PS- Can you answer this? Why are people so married to the idea we went to the Moon?
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:41 pm to
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We can start with the video showing them in low earth orbit when they were supposed to be about to land on the Moon.

I would recomend the whole Documentary...but skip to 32:05 if you want to see that part.
LINK


I looked at your two replies just now. Instead of linking me to something, could you list 3 or 4 or 5 items, maybe your top five, and I will hot those.

I can't just tackle everything at once.
Posted by JPinLondon
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:43 pm to
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Me...no one has explained to me how they got past that radiation belt. because they didn't.

Van Allen Radiation Belts - a favorite of the hoax crowd. The danger in passing through this zone is real, and not trivial. However, the "fatal risk" is also overstated by the hoaxers. There are worse spots in the VABs where the danger is higher than other areas, particularly the areas corresponding to Earth's magnetic poles. This was not a region the Apollo astronauts traversed. However, the danger was real. I think some have equated it to, perhaps, something like 100 chest x-rays worth of radiation, or maybe 200.

I believe Astronaut Swigert developed cancer a decade after his Apollo 13 flight, and died a few months later.
JP's Take: Risks Highly Overstated
Posted by pelicansfan123
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Alldaylong
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Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:47 pm to
Never happened
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:49 pm to
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1. We claim we do not have the technology today to go
2. We claim to have destroyed the information


Some NASA folks and "insider" enthusiasts have been quoted saying something like "if we wanted to go to the moon now, we couldn't" or "all the Saturn V records were destroyed".

The first quote, well yes.. we do not have the equipment on-hand to send men to the moon. And due to bureaucracy, safety, environmental laws, congress, etc... it might take longer to do it now than it did between 1961 (JFK's goal) and 1969 (Apollo XI).

However, the fifty years of advanced technology would allow us to get back to the moon VERY quickly if we could minimize all the other impediments.

As for the destroyed rocket plans. I don't know, but that seems plausible, given what I know about bureaucracy. Have you ever been in the military? Or worked at a government or contractor installation?
Posted by JodyPlauche
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:50 pm to
Take your time...but video and audio evidence showing them faking being farther away from Earth than they actually are is pretty tough to debunk.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:51 pm to
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4. I can look up

5. Neil A. Spelled backwards is Alien and Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was Moon. What are the odds of those 2 coincidences?

4 - is this a typo?

5 - is this an actual argument? Seriously? Not being a dick, but you probably believe in astrology, right?
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3263 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

. We claim we do not have the technology today to go

2. We claim to have destroyed the information
Who claims this?
quote:

Neil A. Spelled backwards is Alien and Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was Moon. What are the odds of those 2 coincidences?
Oh nvm, didn't catch the trolling at first
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Take your time...but video and audio evidence showing them faking being farther away from Earth than they actually are is pretty tough to debunk.

I'll take a look. Come back here, if you leave.

I took a crack at four of yours so far.. thoughts?


ETA: I tackled five (incl. Van Allen Belts)

This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
10052 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Have you ever been in the military? Or worked at a government or contractor installation?




Nope. But I will agree with you that it does seem plausible if they actually existed.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
10052 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Not being a dick, but you probably believe in astrology, right?


Not at all.

Does Neil A. Spelled backwards spell Alien and was Buzz's mother's maiden name NOT Moon?

Seems like one hell of a coincidence for the first 2 men to step foot on the Moon.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:56 pm to
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5. Neil A. Spelled backwards is Alien and Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was Moon. What are the odds of those 2 coincidences?
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
10052 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:58 pm to
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I took a crack at four of yours so far.. thoughts?


ETA: I tackled five (incl. Van Allen Belts)


You have done as much to persuade me as I'm sure I have done to persuade you.

Curious on the video...I will come back and check later.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Does Neil A. Spelled backwards spell Alien and was Buzz's mother's maiden name NOT Moon?

Seems like one hell of a coincidence for the first 2 men to step foot on the Moon.

your name makes: Day oh Jelpuc, a known Satanist. Coincidence? Hmmmm...
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